Golf 77TSI Details, Observations and Questions

[OilBurna]

VW to shave $3000 from entry-level Golf


Mod edit 12th October 2010 by Corey_R:

Volkswagen Group Austrralia have now updated their website.
Golf 77TSI Web page
Downloads page including updated Golf Brochure and Specs booklet which includes the Golf 77TSI

[triode12]

VW to shave $3000 from entry-level Golf

Nice - the only problem from a marketing POV is that current laws still prohibit P platers from driving cars that are turbocharged. I am assuming that P-platers make up a large share of that segment of the market so most of them would exlude it from their list of possibles. Which is a pity really.

[pologti18t]

Nice - the only problem from a marketing POV is that current laws still prohibit P platers from driving cars that are turbocharged. I am assuming that P-platers make up a large share of that segment of the market so most of them would exlude it from their list of possibles. Which is a pity really.

I think you should check that.... in NSW the RTA havea list of low powered turbocharged cars that are P Plater certified.

Examples of moderate performance turbo/supercharged vehicles that are eligible for exemption include:

• Audi 1390cc A3
• Audi 1798cc A3 and A4
• Audi 1984cc Q5
• Citroen 1598cc C4 1.6L
• Fiat 1368cc, Punto and Rimto
• Mercedes-Benz 1796cc CLK200K, E200K, C200, CLC200, C230 and SLK 200K
• Peugeot 1598cc 308 Series 1.6T XSE
• Saab 1988cc 9-3 Linear, and Vector
• Skoda 1798cc Superb 1.8 TFSI and Octavia 1.8 TFSI
• Volkswagen 1390cc Golf 90TSI and Golf 118TSI
• Volkswagen 1984cc Tiguan 125TSI and Passat 147TSI

[triode12]

I think you should check that.... in NSW the RTA havea list of low powered turbocharged cars that are P Plater certified.

Examples of moderate performance turbo/supercharged vehicles that are eligible for exemption include:

• Audi 1390cc A3
• Audi 1798cc A3 and A4
• Audi 1984cc Q5
• Citroen 1598cc C4 1.6L
• Fiat 1368cc, Punto and Rimto
• Mercedes-Benz 1796cc CLK200K, E200K, C200, CLC200, C230 and SLK 200K
• Peugeot 1598cc 308 Series 1.6T XSE
• Saab 1988cc 9-3 Linear, and Vector
• Skoda 1798cc Superb 1.8 TFSI and Octavia 1.8 TFSI
• Volkswagen 1390cc Golf 90TSI and Golf 118TSI
• Volkswagen 1984cc Tiguan 125TSI and Passat 147TSI

I stand corrected. I was basing my assumption on a recent SMH article stating the problem confronting P-platers. Perhaps the RTA has made the concession recently.

Edit:
I found the link

http://smh.drive.com.au/motor-news/authorities-plan-reverse-of-pplater-turbo-law-20090314-146v3.html

[cme2c]

I think you should check that.... in NSW the RTA havea list of low powered turbocharged cars that are P Plater certified.

Examples of moderate performance turbo/supercharged vehicles that are eligible for exemption include:

• Audi 1390cc A3
• Audi 1798cc A3 and A4
• Audi 1984cc Q5
• Citroen 1598cc C4 1.6L
• Fiat 1368cc, Punto and Rimto
• Mercedes-Benz 1796cc CLK200K, E200K, C200, CLC200, C230 and SLK 200K
• Peugeot 1598cc 308 Series 1.6T XSE
• Saab 1988cc 9-3 Linear, and Vector
• Skoda 1798cc Superb 1.8 TFSI and Octavia 1.8 TFSI
• Volkswagen 1390cc Golf 90TSI and Golf 118TSI
• Volkswagen 1984cc Tiguan 125TSI and Passat 147TSI

Trouble is, it's still a prohibited vehicle and you have to apply for an exemption. We haven't tried as we have other vehicles our P Plater son can drive (it also keeps the green slip price down on the 118TSI).

[cme2c]

Why cheapen the Golf? I look more on our 118TSI as an A3 for less money. It seems like Volkswagen is trying to turn it into a Corolla. If I was putting down $60k for a Golf R I would not be amused to see a car that looks almost the same for 1/3rd the price.

[Pepe]

Why cheapen the Golf? I look more on our 118TSI as an A3 for less money. It seems like Volkswagen is trying to turn it into a Corolla. If I was putting down $60k for a Golf R I would not be amused to see a car that looks almost the same for 1/3rd the price.

Bah... 1/3 the price, but, > 3 times the fun!

[pologti18t]

Why cheapen the Golf? I look more on our 118TSI as an A3 for less money. It seems like Volkswagen is trying to turn it into a Corolla. If I was putting down $60k for a Golf R I would not be amused to see a car that looks almost the same for 1/3rd the price.

Is that what BMW M3 drivers think? Or AMG C63 drivers? Probably not.

If VW can sell a less expensive version of the Golf why shouldn't it? It gets more people into a VW who will hopefully then trade up to a more expensive model in the future.

[OilBurna]

same with the focus rs base model is pretty close to 20k rs = 60k

[Corey_R]

I see this as a good move. Expand the customer base, and if they have a good experience, they're sure to "buy up" on their next purchase.

Another positive is that the 90TSI will get a specification increase to differentiate it from the 77TSI.

As for P platers in turbo cars, the laws vary from state to state. But the issue of turbo cars and P platers is only going to get worse until governments wake up and recognise that their "fuel efficiency" and "carbon emissions" targets are forcing manufacturers to switch to turbo/supercharging and they'll need to make the appropriate adjustments to their P plater laws.

[MaccaTSI]

Not that it matters, but wonder how they'll badge it, plain silver TSI on the back? Give the 90TSI a red I to differentiate??

[phaeton]

How will this affect Polo TSI sales ?

I've been looking at both (Polo 77TSI and Golf 90TSI) but today after hearing this I would go straight to the Golf 77TSI purely because of the badge.

Still waiting for the Amarok though

[markwid]

I see this as a good move. Expand the customer base

Yeah. +1.
I think some leakage to higher spec will happen as well i.e. new potential customer walks in to check out the new base model but ends up with the 90TSI or 118TSI.

[anthony]

How will this affect Polo TSI sales ?

I've been looking at both (Polo 77TSI and Golf 90TSI) but today after hearing this I would go straight to the Golf 77TSI purely because of the badge.

Still waiting for the Amarok though

You have a good point,I think this model will hurt Polo sales.

[SpeedBird]

Another positive is that the 90TSI will get a specification increase to differentiate it from the 77TSI.

Coreying........do you know what extra equipment the 90TSI is going to get for MY2011?