RNS510 cost-justified?

[langers_sydney]

After reading this thread i'm now thinking I might keep the perfectly decent RCD510 with the six CD changer. Buy a top of the range Tom Tom and put the spare 800 bucks towards Stage 1 !!!

[DreamensioN]

After reading this thread i'm now thinking I might keep the perfectly decent RCD510 with the six CD changer. Buy a top of the range Tom Tom and put the spare 800 bucks towards Stage 1 !!!

That's what I did with the R. I just bought a Tom Tom 5XXL. You can get one these days for around $170 with free map updates if you look around on those Groupon/DealsDirect websites. Paying an extra $2500 for a unit that has GPS, and maps that are out of date was too steep for me.

[frozze]

So your RCD510/RNS510 definitely works with more than 6000+ songs in your SD card?

Cool! Thanks for confirming this.

Not true.. I'm using a 16gb sd card and 6000+ songs

[Ferni]

What other manufacturers built-in sat navs have you looked at to make this statement though?
I mean, each time someone makes that statement, and someone asks the question I have, the answer is usually no one. The fact is, the RNS510 is very reasonably priced in comparison to others with a similar feature set.

It is getting a bit old though, and certainly the other Euro manufacturers in particular are starting to distance it feature set... but they're still sometimes twice the cost of more...

I mean, it's all good to say x product is too expensive. But no one is going to listen when in reality, it's one of the lower cost options out there, lol.

You are right, I've not really looked at other sat nav options on new cars to compare. I'm not comparing to other car sat navs, I'm comparing to other consumer entertainment/GPS options (ie ipad or tomtom or ipad WITH tomtom ) This is the reality of what people are doing, see this thread for example - people saying I'll keep my $800/RCD510 and buy a $200 tomtom... The value isn't there to spend 2.5k regardless of if other manufactures are charging $2,000 or $10,000 for their sat nav.

After all it's just a few bits of cheap hardware with some software (slow/bloated java doesn't help the speed/responsiveness).

Also thanks littlejohn for confirming there is no 2,000 song limit - I'm sure i read it in the manual - not at home so can't check.

[Corey_R]

It's your money, so you can do what you want with it. If you want the inconvenience of a Tom Tom, then great. But I still think this thread is largely pointless.

It's like, go to a Kitchen company, and get a quote for the installation of a indoor BBQ grill in your kitchen (the RNS-510). Then go to bunnings and buy an outdoor portable BBQ (the Tom Tom). It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know which one is going to cost many many times more than the other. And, I don't think that anyone would be legitimately sitting here and arguing that the professionally integrated BBQ should be as cheap as the bunnings outdoor bbq.

So I don't really understand why you guys keep on expecting that unreasonable situation to occur with cars.

Would I like to the RNS-510 to be less than what it costs now? Sure. But telling VW that it's too expensive isn't going to help much because when compared to other comparable solutions from any of the other euro manufacturers it's well and truley cheaper.


Will things change?
I think that we're more likely to see the RNS-510 replaced by an updated unit, with a much nicer interface, much larger internal storage, and google-maps integration etc (aka, the new Audi system).... but it will still be a ~$2500 option - as the reality is, that's "good value" when compared to other integrated units.

[Ryan_R]

For the record, I agree that $2500+ is too much to justify the RNS510, that's why I (and quite a few others) have gone the Ebay route - $900-$1100 was easier to swallow. It may also depend on what you had to start off with. i.e. someone with the RCD310 might be more willing to upgrade since you get the nice classy touchscreen, whereas those with the RDC510 might not care as much. That's one possibility anyway.

[Ideo]

For the record, I agree that $2500+ is too much to justify the RNS510, that's why I (and quite a few others) have gone the Ebay route - $900-$1100 was easier to swallow. It may also depend on what you had to start off with. i.e. someone with the RCD310 might be more willing to upgrade since you get the nice classy touchscreen, whereas those with the RDC510 might not care as much. That's one possibility anyway.

If I wanted probable stolen goods in my dash I'd go get a fully sick sony from a guy in the Minto pub carpark.

[Ryan_R]

They're refurbished OEM units, what are you on about?

[littlejohn]

For the record, I agree that $2500+ is too much to justify the RNS510, that's why I (and quite a few others) have gone the Ebay route - $900-$1100 was easier to swallow. It may also depend on what you had to start off with. i.e. someone with the RCD310 might be more willing to upgrade since you get the nice classy touchscreen, whereas those with the RDC510 might not care as much. That's one possibility anyway.

+1. And you can always ebay the RCD510 and get at least a few hundred for it, which brings the price differential between Tom Tom like GPS' down even more.
I have tried numerous portable GPS units and to date have yet to come across any that works as well as the RNS510.

[Corey_R]

They're refurbished OEM units, what are you on about?

Of course... they need to "refurbish" them to remove the screw driver marks from being jemmyed from the dashboard...

[littlejohn]

If I wanted probable stolen goods in my dash I'd go get a fully sick sony from a guy in the Minto pub carpark.

that's a pretty big call.. I'd want confirm the facts before making defamatory remarks like that.

[Rosey456]

Surely the Golf R, at its high price point warrants all the bells & whistles.
I laugh when I see expensive cars with a cheap sat nav stuck to the window. Most people pay off their car over a number of years so ticking the satnav option really doesn't make much difference to repayments.
I dont use mine all that often, but its very handy to have it on call when ever the need arises.

[Ideo]

that's a pretty big call.. I'd want confirm the facts before making defamatory remarks like that.

Warning - Beware potentially dodgy RNS 510 units. - uk-mkivs

Beware your RNS Sat Nav

Scirocco Central • View topic - Where does all the RNS510's come from?

GPS systems commonly stolen from VW cars? | AVForums.com - UK Online

View topic - HELP - RNS-510 • Scirocco Net.co.uk Forum online community news and info VW Scirocco

It's pretty common knowledge.

Someone else mentioned something similar a few pages back.

Oh, and you might want to check out the legal definition of defamation. It applies to individuals. Not to my disdain at stuff which is probably stolen property.

[littlejohn]

Warning - Beware potentially dodgy RNS 510 units. - uk-mkivs

Beware your RNS Sat Nav

Scirocco Central • View topic - Where does all the RNS510's come from?

GPS systems commonly stolen from VW cars? | AVForums.com - UK Online

View topic - HELP - RNS-510 • Scirocco Net.co.uk Forum online community news and info VW Scirocco

It's pretty common knowledge.

Someone else mentioned something similar a few pages back.

Oh, and you might want to check out the legal definition of defamation. It applies to individuals. Not to my disdain at stuff which is probably stolen property.

Yes, but your remarks were inferring that all RNS510 on ebay are stolen property, which would imply that the ebay seller is of unfavorable character . You can argue semantics all you want, I never made claim to be dictionary.com
Just because some Golf drivers are tools, doesn't mean we all are

[Ideo]

Yes, but your remarks were inferring that all RNS510 on ebay are stolen property, which would imply that the ebay seller is of unfavorable character . You can argue semantics all you want, I never made claim to be dictionary.com
Just because some Golf drivers are tools, doesn't mean we all are

Oh, ebay.

I thought for a moment you were getting worked up about me saying a bad word about the Minto hotel.

If you want to buy something "refurbished" from eastern europe that is one of the most commonly stolen car parts in Europe, that will not come with any proof as to it's provenance, and you can do that with a clear conscience then knock yourself out.

Oh. And the legal system is based on semantics and definitions. I never defamed an individual. And, in any case, the chances of prosecution are much lower for supposed defamation against no one than for for receiving stolen goods.