Wheelspin on take off when in wet,TSi, GTI and Golf R

[pologti18t]

Upcoming WRX STi
2011 Subaru Impreza WRX STI First Drive - Motor Trend

[twotribez]

Hmmm I am not liking the back.. Looks like a Kia...

[Prodigy]

Hmmm I am not liking the back.. Looks like a Kia...

Front looks tough though.. or just go the hatch.

[Corey_R]

Think we're off topic guys... I'm happy for you to discuss WRX's - but do it in the general forum

[twotribez]

Think we're off topic guys... I'm happy for you to discuss WRX's - but do it in the general forum

Haha so sorry so can anyone advise me, is it worth upgrading to just a Gti when i alreay have a Tsi? Or is it and R or just keep the TSI?

[Corey_R]

Only you can answer that mate. Go test drive the GTI and the R and see what you think

[Prodigy]

Only you can answer that mate. Go test drive the GTI and the R and see what you think

Exactly what i was going to say. I test drove the GTI originally but decided to hang off buying until the R was released as i wanted to compare the two. Needless to say, the R won.

[REXman]

haha yeah AWD definitely for sure for ALL PAW GRIP. I think I read somewhere that the Golf R is FWD biased?

Yes that might be right, but it has the ability to send 100% of the torque to the rear wheels.

[guliver_twist]

I have a TSI and am totally happy with it (no unintentional wheel spin) .. Why not chip your TSI first and then see if you still want more power before losing a lot of money upgrading to a GTI? I have not chipped mine but know it takes you to similar power levels as an unchipped gti
p.s. maybe cause my car is manual I am gentler with the amount of power I sent to the clutch when its road is wet.

[twotribez]

I have a TSI and am totally happy with it (no unintentional wheel spin) .. Why not chip your TSI first and then see if you still want more power before losing a lot of money upgrading to a GTI? I have not chipped mine but know it takes you to similar power levels as an unchipped gti
p.s. maybe cause my car is manual I am gentler with the amount of power I sent to the clutch when its road is wet.

Hi there, yeah I think I should wait at least 3 years before an upgrade. At the time I purchased I really needed a car and could not wait for the GTi to be launched. I probably won't chip as I want the car to run standard..

[REXman]

Hi there, yeah I think I should wait at least 3 years before an upgrade. At the time I purchased I really needed a car and could not wait for the GTi to be launched. I probably won't chip as I want the car to run standard..

Are you over 60 or just not into performance enhancements in general?

[Beaker]

Coming from a big hp RWD and a series of Turbo AWDs I've been struggling with the FWD thing too.

I've had my GTI a month and I'm just starting to come to terms with it - Turning off the TC everytime I drove it helped, it gave me a better feel for what it could do and how much power you could put down under what conditions. I still light it up occasionaly, particularly when trying to accelerate from standstill into moving traffic, but less and less. My previous ride was an XRToon, and even with double the power you could pretty much just tramp it once it was moving and apart from a bit of chirp it hooked up took off, you have to be far more subtle with the GTI and feed the power in far more progressively.

I need to get it onto a skid pan and work out the understeer / power off over steer thing though - I've found that 25 years of being able to rotate the nose onto the line with the right boot is a very hard habit to break.

[aaaaah]

I need to get it onto a skid pan and work out the understeer / power off over steer thing though - I've found that 25 years of being able to rotate the nose onto the line with the right boot is a very hard habit to break.

Can still rotate the nose with the right boot just have to move it in the opposite direction

[balkanac]

IMO all 3 cars (TSI, GTI and the R) behaive like a FWD car. I have had my R32 for 3 years now and the most annoying thing is the tendency to understeer. none of these cars are balanced properly, but i guess thats what you get in a fwd hatch that has a heavy nose. My daily is a bmw 318is E30 and you can feel that the car is balanced properly, its much more enjoyable then the understeering R32 and it costed me 1 10th of the R32 price.
so if you want to have traction and a car that doesnt understeer easily i'd recommend not buying a golf in any form

[Corey_R]

I'm not sure an R32 owner can give an opinion on the balance of the R without actually driving the R. The R32 is famous for being nose heavy. For me personally, that engine was the reason I did not buy an R32 (although its sound was awesome). The R on the other hand is very well balanced. Read some reviews from motoring press, and also WhiteJames's extensive comparisons in other threads here and you'll find this opinion is shared.