Golf R vs WRX vs Evo vs Megane RS250

[Corey_R]

Thanks for the reply team_v. So with that guys, since team_v has clarified that he didn't buy the Tiguan in some belief that it is better than a GTI or R for performance, lets put this Tiguan vs GTI/R stuff to bed again

[team_v]

No worries Coreying.

[Karlosovic]

I chose the Tiguan becasue i will be taking it on soft-roader/snow mountain/rainforrest tripswhen i break it in, these trips will be happening at least once a year so the benefit of AWD will be realised for me.
I wouldn't be comfortable taking a golf or similar spec'd car on the dirt roads/softroader treks because of their low clearance and the fact that they are FWD only which means i am more likely to get into trouble on the softer roads.

It also comes in a lot cheaper than the "competitors" and provides all the benefits or the higher spec'd cars i.e. AWD, hill assist, Realised safety rating etc.

I thought you said those roads don't exist in australia (or maybe just not within range of a VW dealer, which begs the question of how you will get from a dealer to those raods?)

Further to your point of not needing both AWD and power... why are you getting an APR tune?

I must be honest; you sound exactly like every single other person who buys one of these 'soft roader' vehicles and blithers on about how you "plan to go camping" and/or "safety"
I bet you have a 'Baby on Board' sticker, too

[team_v]

I thought you said those roads don't exist in australia (or maybe just not within range of a VW dealer, which begs the question of how you will get from a dealer to those raods?)

Further to your point of not needing both AWD and power... why are you getting an APR tune?

I must be honest; you sound exactly like every single other person who buys one of these 'soft roader' vehicles and blithers on about how you "plan to go camping" and/or "safety"
I bet you have a 'Baby on Board' sticker, too

APR provides better fuel economy over the stock map which was a benefit to me.
It also provides the additional power for overtaking on the single lane highways that i will be driving on to get to said destinations.
I wouldn't consider taking a small FWD car to those locations as they are just not capable enough in my mind.

I am planning for the future hence why i bought a car that i will find suitable for the next 20 years as i see no point throwing money into an asset and taking a depreciation hit then throwing more money into another asset.
I am already booking the first snow mountain holiday trip for August/September.

I'm leaving it at that due to Coreying's request.

[hooba]

On the topic of the AWD in the R, I can confirm that it will kick out the rear end and allow a small amount of oversteer if you try hard enough.

As for the original question, I'm a bit confused as the title and actual post list a different group of cars, some them not available in Australia. For our market, I can't think of any other direct competitors than the STI and EVOLUTION, and they are really more of track focused option.

[oshuyi]

check out fifth gear Scirocco R Vs Focus RS Vs Megane 250 Cup Vs Boxster

YouTube - Fifth Gear: Scirocco R Vs Focus RS Vs Megane 250 Cup Vs Boxster

[Dubya]

There are roads in Canberra (and surrounds) notorious for being icy in winter... I can attest to that!

... and if you didn't attest we'd be completely convinced of their notoriety!

[Golf Houso]

The haldex AWD was always designed as a money saver, not a performance oriented driveline. It never was meant to be a proper torsen AWD, and no number of blue, red, pink or purple haldex upgrades will change the nature of that. Its good for what it is don't get me wrong, but I'll still pass on a hydraulically controlled 'AWD' which more often than you realise, switches to a FWD...

If you want a real AWD, get an Audi or a Subi/Evo...

[hooba]

The haldex AWD was always designed as a money saver, not a performance oriented driveline. It never was meant to be a proper torsen AWD, and no number of blue, red, pink or purple haldex upgrades will change the nature of that. Its good for what it is don't get me wrong, but I'll still pass on a hydraulically controlled 'AWD' which more often than you realise, switches to a FWD...

If you want a real AWD, get an Audi or a Subi/Evo...

You need to drive the R in order to reassess your opinion on the Haldex.

[G-rig]

The Audi S3 comes with Haldex Gen 4 too, does that mean it's not a torsion system, or were you referring to other Audis?

[Corey_R]

I presume he means not the A3/S3/TT series as they're all using Haldex too.

[Golf Houso]

I presume he means not the A3/S3/TT series as they're all using Haldex too.

Correct, they're all East/West drivelines and hence are all Haldex.

You need to drive the R in order to reassess your opinion on the Haldex.

I've driven an R32, handled ok but still a massively underwhelming car, still had nothing on a suby and I doubt the R will be any different I'm sorry!!!
A great car let down by its AWD system

[G-rig]

Maybe you should drive the R or an upgraded haldex car .

[hooba]

Maybe you should drive the R or an upgraded haldex car .

You don't need to drive one to be able to offer your opinion on the interwebz.

[Corey_R]

You don't need to drive one to be able to offer your opinion on the interwebz.

Are you SERIOUS!? You mean people are giving opinions on cars they've never driven... that's just unpossible!