DSG in neutral

[booya]

Do you guys with DSG leave it in Drive when stopped at lights or put it in neutral?
Is there a saving in fuel, is it negligible?
Also, paddle shifting when in Drive, how long before the computer takes over gear choices again? Does it do it once a certain RPM is reached or is it a matter of time before it thinks you want it back in auto drive mode?
I've noticed the DSG sometimes tries to guess what I'm trying to do and picks low ratio gears coming out of a roundabout, seems quite nifty.

[FJ Steve]

Do you guys with DSG leave it in Drive when stopped at lights or put it in neutral? Leave it in Drive
Is there a saving in fuel, is it negligible? Negligible
Also, paddle shifting when in Drive, how long before the computer takes over gear choices again? About 12 - 15 seconds
Does it do it once a certain RPM is reached or is it a matter of time before it thinks you want it back in auto drive mode? Matter of time
I've noticed the DSG sometimes tries to guess what I'm trying to do and picks low ratio gears coming out of a roundabout, seems quite nifty.

DSG is very smart....worth the extra bucks.

[GolfAtom]

DSG is an automated manual gearbox, when you are stationary, the box is automatically in neutral.

[HereGoes]

I am sure i read in the manual that you should put it in neutral when you are going to be stationary for a while. You can definitely feel the difference when you switch it to neutral.

[Big Yellow]

DSG in neutral

I am sure i read in the manual that you should put it in neutral when you are going to be stationary for a while. You can definitely feel the difference when you switch it to neutral.

The manual actually suggests you dont put it into neutral.

[Corey_R]

Do you guys with DSG leave it in Drive when stopped at lights or put it in neutral?
Is there a saving in fuel, is it negligible?
Also, paddle shifting when in Drive, how long before the computer takes over gear choices again? Does it do it once a certain RPM is reached or is it a matter of time before it thinks you want it back in auto drive mode?
I've noticed the DSG sometimes tries to guess what I'm trying to do and picks low ratio gears coming out of a roundabout, seems quite nifty.

Yeah - this is why I don't like people referring the the DSG as an 'Automatic Gearbox'. I creates confusion. It's an Automated Manual Gearbox, as GolfAtom has mentioned. Thinking of it as a traditional auto just doesn't work

You can definitely feel the difference when you switch it to neutral.

It's all in your head

[Mk6 GTI]

Do you guys with DSG leave it in Drive when stopped at lights or put it in neutral?
Is there a saving in fuel, is it negligible?
Also, paddle shifting when in Drive, how long before the computer takes over gear choices again? Does it do it once a certain RPM is reached or is it a matter of time before it thinks you want it back in auto drive mode?
I've noticed the DSG sometimes tries to guess what I'm trying to do and picks low ratio gears coming out of a roundabout, seems quite nifty.

Hey mate,

When your in drive and you use th paddles the DSG switches to manual mode and wont switch back unless you come to a stop, slip the gear selector into manual mode and then back to drive or you simply hold down the RIGHT paddle on the steering wheel and it switches back to automatic. You will see that the right paddle shifter has a "+" and "OFF".

I find the best way is to hold the paddle down..

[Corey_R]

Hey mate,

When your in drive and you use th paddles the DSG switches to manual mode and wont switch back unless you come to a stop, slip the gear selector into manual mode and then back to drive or you simply hold down the RIGHT paddle on the steering wheel and it switches back to automatic. You will see that the right paddle shifter has a "+" and "OFF".

I find the best way is to hold the paddle down..

This isn't true. I mean, what you say about holding down the "OFF" paddle is true. But if you're in D (Drive) and then you use the paddles, if you do not press the paddles again for around 15 seconds, the car will switch back to Drive - as FJ Steve mentioned in his post above.
If you keep using the paddles without leaving a ~15 second gap between their operation, then yes, it will stay in manual mode for a long as you need it to - but as soon as you stop using the paddles for ~15 second - D for Drive

[Mk6 GTI]

This isn't true. I mean, what you say about holding down the "OFF" paddle is true. But if you're in D (Drive) and then you use the paddles, if you do not press the paddles again for around 15 seconds, the car will switch back to Drive - as FJ Steve mentioned in his post above.
If you keep using the paddles without leaving a ~15 second gap between their operation, then yes, it will stay in manual mode for a long as you need it to - but as soon as you stop using the paddles for ~15 second - D for Drive

Does waiting 15 secs sound like an efficient way of doing it? i think not lol

[HereGoes]

It's all in your head

Hey! That does not mean anything! My girl friend is in there too and it does not mean she is not real!!!

I thought i had seen it in the manual but i have not really read much of it so i could quite possibly have seen it some place else =)

[Corey_R]

Does waiting 15 secs sound like an efficient way of doing it? i think not lol

Agreed... just correcting the information to say that it will put itself back

[entice]

Actually, some misinformation in this thread.
There is a difference between leaving it in D and in N when at a complete stop.
To see it, just switch the MFD to instantaneous consumption, and watch it drop when in N compared to in D.
I am not suggesting you do this all the time, just pointing out that there is a difference, and it's isnt in your head, with some imperical data....

[booya]

Actually, some misinformation in this thread.
There is a difference between leaving it in D and in N when at a complete stop.
To see it, just switch the MFD to instantaneous consumption, and watch it drop when in N compared to in D.
I am not suggesting you do this all the time, just pointing out that there is a difference, and it's isnt in your head, with some imperical data....

I agree more with this except that I get 0L/100km in drive at stop as well as neutral at stop. BUT.......on level ground in drive at stop, if I lift foot of the brake, the car actually moves a little like a bloody automatic!!!!! So does this mean there's still some torque there but the brakes are preventing it from moving forward? If so, its using fuel and wearing the brake pads???!!!!

Also, anyone find that since the paddles are there, theres no need for the manual stick shift to the left? Why would you want to use the gear stick when you got paddles?

[MurphyTheElf]

I agree more with this except that I get 0L/100km in drive at stop as well as neutral at stop. BUT.......on level ground in drive at stop, if I lift foot of the brake, the car actually moves a little like a bloody automatic!!!!! So does this mean there's still some torque there but the brakes are preventing it from moving forward? If so, its using fuel and wearing the brake pads???!!!!

Also, anyone find that since the paddles are there, theres no need for the manual stick shift to the left? Why would you want to use the gear stick when you got paddles?

I think you'll find the clutch disengages when the car is at rest and the foot on the brake. When you lift the brake, the transmission quickly engages 1st gear and starts to roll. You can feel it if you pay close attention.

I only use the manual shifter when I want to change gear mid corner and the paddle is at an awkward position due to the steering wheel angle. I often do this when accelerating from rest turning a corner. I know you aren't strictly supposed to do this in a race sense, but I'm not in a race, just a hurry. High revs in 1st gear is sometimes a little too aggressive for my liking, but I want to maintain the quick acceleration. It's a bit of an odd situation and only a personal preference, but I do it quite often. At speed, I hardly ever use the shifter - it's redundant and certainly not quicker than the paddles as others have questioned. In fact, there is slightly more play in the shifter so it would be ever so slightly slower. Milliseconds.

[Syd118TSI]

I think you'll find the clutch disengages when the car is at rest and the foot on the brake. When you lift the brake, the transmission quickly engages 1st gear and starts to roll. You can feel it if you pay close attention.

If it didn't do this you'd roll backwards if you were taking off from an incline, which I believe it doesn't do?