Whistle sound from GTI engine... Water Pump Failures

[walbjj]

ok, they have pinpointed it as the PCV valve. its venting into the air, and not back into the system, causing the whistling noise. they ordered a new one, should be a few days.
my mate who is the service manager at audi mentioned that this was common for the a3, and the mk5 had this issue with the older engine, not so common with the mk6 and the new engine.
will see if changing it solves the noise

[johnvw]

Interesting ...., Walbjj,
The Service Dept rang me today ( initial service yesterday), they want my Mk6 Gti possibly for a few days.
Perhaps there is more to this whistle noise,
I tried to isolate the noise with a tube to the ear, the noise is louder between the throttle body and alternator front of the engine.
I will report back in a week, hopefully.
Regards John

[johnvw]

To all the whistlers,
Took the Mk6 Gti in today, seems a new water pump is required ( remember the dry bearing comment).
Nothing in stock, waiting for the pump to be shipped out ( very strange, this model has been out for a while now). I will post again if any further is discovered.
Regards John

[walbjj]

water pump? well, ill see how changing the pcv valve goes, but my mate who is an audi service manager, said that the pcv is very common for the audi engines, and he suggested that the noise symptoms sounded similar to what i described. the vw guys said this as well after listening and having my car.
ill report back, but water pump is different to what i been told

[team_v]

water pump? well, ill see how changing the pcv valve goes, but my mate who is an audi service manager, said that the pcv is very common for the audi engines, and he suggested that the noise symptoms sounded similar to what i described. the vw guys said this as well after listening and having my car.
ill report back, but water pump is different to what i been told

Any update on this one?

[walbjj]

Still waiting on the part from Singapore, they said 2 weeks abit over a week ago so might've next week.
Strange thing is, why don't they have the part locally?
My Audi service manager said it's either so rare a fault they dont keep it in stock or it's so common they have run out. He tends to lean to the latter as he does a ton at his dealership.
As an aside, he said he has 3 warranty dsg replacements of the complete gearbox a week for the next 6 weeks. I said thank god I didn't buy a dsg, he agreed

[JPanDAX]

It is interesting to hear of your service managers comments re: DSG Walbjj.

3 complete replacements on warranty of DSG units per week for the next 6 weeks - that is 18 units over six weeks, and that is only one workshop I am assuming and only one workshops current programmed service load !!!

I am wondering are these the 6 speed DSG or the 7 found in the polo?

Also who and where are all these people who are having warranty issues, have they been posting on this forum, as I don't seem to see any complaints about the DSG, let alone issues ... well ... other than the occasional person who ends up with a lemon - which does happen as we all know or have heard.

I have a DSG with only 500km on it. Still in the run in stage, so have been keeping it below 3/4 revs (about 4000) max and definitely NO launches.

I wonder if these problems, if they are the 6 speed DSG in the R and GTI are being created by people using or overusing launch control or a design defect.... Interesting to know..

JP

[walbjj]

I'm referring to the Audi dsg that r being replaced. Vw I'm not sure
He was telling me that the normal labour rate is $176/hr but warranty is $136/hr so they get paid less, and the book lists a dsg repair at 4 bookable hrs but it takes them about 6.
He used to be the BMW service manager at rushcutters bay but was offered more money and it's closer to home but he said that BMW in general have less issues. He also said if it was his money, he would buy Japanese if u want less headaches

[JPanDAX]

OK no problem. Not sure what the difference is between the Audi and VW DSG.

6 hours work in 4 hours, lower rates, don't make any money!!!! I guess a repair shop is not going to tell everyone they are making a mint on all the work they do as that would put customers in a position to be more likely to ask for a better price or deal, since they (the repairer) is doing so well... Not saying the guy is lying, but most people in business tend to cry poor to their customers - generally! But hey - I don't know anyone who wouldn't take a a job that was a decent job, paid more money and was closer to home... good choice to him!

Yeah, you can buy plenty of Japanese headaches these days... but you get the plastic and poor fit and finish to boot! I think many people on this forum have probably owned both Jap and German by now and know the difference, that is why most of them are now in a VW, Audi etc

Mate - I like your planned *** upgrades and your colour choice.. thing will be a white jet when your done! Nice! I really want to go the APR path, but I am just too concerned about the potential warranty effects or void issues. But mate as soon as that warranty is up I think I will be going down the APR path and some other mods, wont worry me much by then as I will be well over the NEW stage.

Anyhow as for the DSG, I hope it is only the Audi that has the problem, not the VW's, though as I mentioned earlier I haven't really heard of anything or seen any cluster type issues being raised on the DSG on this forum. Everyone, including myself loves the DSG and I must say I have been a stable manual driver for the past 20 years or more, but the DSG converted me... no regrets at all and each to their own preferences.

Cheers

JP

BTW - I hope your issues get solved soon!

[walbjj]

I'm not doubting that euro r a better car to drive, that's why I chose this over another jap car, I wanted something "nice". But what he is referring to and me as well is outright reliability. No one can argue that jap cars give less headaches on avg. But again I took a chance on owning a nice car with the chance Of potential dramas later.

I actually didn't like the dsg, that's why I didn't buy the polo gti which was my first choice but I'm happy with my choice of the golf gti. I got the colour I wanted and I'm slowly building it how I want. I'll see how this Pcv thing turns out

[team_v]

I'm not doubting that euro r a better car to drive, that's why I chose this over another jap car, I wanted something "nice". But what he is referring to and me as well is outright reliability. No one can argue that jap cars give less headaches on avg. But again I took a chance on owning a nice car with the chance Of potential dramas later.

I actually didn't like the dsg, that's why I didn't buy the polo gti which was my first choice but I'm happy with my choice of the golf gti. I got the colour I wanted and I'm slowly building it how I want. I'll see how this Pcv thing turns out

Let us know how it goes.
I heard the same noise when i was driving today and our cars share the EA888 engine.

[eskimo]

Got same high pitch noise on a brand new gti mk6, had one water pump replaced, which fixed the issue for a few weeks
Now it's back and was told by the dealer that another water pump and expansion tank needs to be replaced now. Part coming from Singapore which is another 3 weeks wait, I guess survey forms a good for something

[walbjj]

Hmmm, wonder why they say water pump. The mechanics at European autotech thought it might have been the water pump or some sort of pump but they put the stethoscope on them and no noise came from those parts in my car. That's why Derek told me Togo back to the dealer.
I'll see how this Pcv goes if it ever comes in stock

[johnvw]

Eskimo,
I am a little concerned about your double water pump replacement.
I have had the call, parts have arrived, water pump to be fitted Monday, stay tuned.
Interestingly the whistle has gone or is not as detectable as previous. I am about to install a Catch Can so I really do not want to have to take the Gti back again ( for obvious reasons).
I will report the service outcome.
**** Just where is the water pump located, as before the whistle was more prominent front of engine between alternator and throttle body.
Regards John

[eskimo]

Hi John,

Yeah i thought that the new water pump would definitely fix it, as this issue is not so common. even on the overseas forums many experienced this problem on low km's. A couple of them mentioned that they also had to go onto a second water pump before the problem was fixed, which was a surprise to me at the time. My car is going back into the dealer in about a week. so we'll see what the results are after that. I'm not quite sure exactly where the water pump is located. On the first replacement pump, when the noise came back, it was not as loud. I'm hoping that they just fix this issue, as its becoming a pain to keep taking it back to the dealer. Takes the fun out of owning a new car. I'll keep you posted with my outcome.