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  • Try lifting of the gas slightly when changing manually under hard acceleration
    Some say he was the Stig... all we know is that he drives a VW Transporter.
    Audi A3

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    • hmmmm? I've just typed a number of those things into the search page and each time all I got was 15 plus pages of theads, none of which even mention the term DSG. I'm not saying that its not there, but it just seems very hard to find anything. I generally love reading the post on this forum, but more recently I have been frustrated by the fact that I always find myself going through the same stuf in an effort to find new information that I actually want. The search/advanced search facility just doesn't narrow things down enough.
      This was meant to be a response to something on page 2, so not sure how it got here
      Last edited by stefan; 16-10-2011, 10:29 AM.

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      • Posts are in chronologic order - a new post always ends up at the bottom of the last page. Perhaps edit your post and include a quote of the post you were replying to?
        Some say he was the Stig... all we know is that he drives a VW Transporter.
        Audi A3

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        • Originally posted by cavinsoo View Post
          Hi,

          My DSG jerks between D1 and D2...anyone know this problem and is there a way to fix it?
          See http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...ear-45873.html
          MY09 118TSI - SOLD

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          • To Corey - you are never in manual mode using paddles if the stick is in auto. All you are doing is briefly over riding the auto.

            My sincere apologies for not using the Corey definition. If any person were to do so, no one would be able to estimate usage.
            8VSS2L/16 E9E9 XG MP SPP1 4ZD 6XK CSC5P with an extra free 10kW

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            • Originally posted by Candyman View Post
              To Corey - you are never in manual mode using paddles if the stick is in auto. All you are doing is briefly over riding the auto.
              +1.
              i find it annoying as it reverts back to 'full auto' (d) if i don't change gears within 20-30 secs or something.
              when i use the paddle shifters, i make sure the gear selector is flicked over into manual (m). no interruptions there

              i find in 'auto' mode, the dsg computer does a better job downshifting than me in 'manual' mode. its smoother & the engine braking is more effective. hence i find myself in 'auto' 80% of the time.

              sports (s) mode is no good in suburban traffic driving conditions.
              MY17 Superb 162TSI, Business Grey, Tech+Comfort Pack, APR ECU+TCU Stg 1, SLA, Rieger Splitter + Side Skirts, Eibach Pro-Kit Springs, Hardrace Swaybar, TPMS
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              • Originally posted by Candyman View Post
                To Corey - you are never in manual mode using paddles if the stick is in auto. All you are doing is briefly over riding the auto.

                My sincere apologies for not using the Corey definition. If any person were to do so, no one would be able to estimate usage.
                I already know this Candyman.

                According to the owners manual, and according to everyone who had posted up to the point that you did, "manual mode" is when you push the gear shifter to the left from the D position. This is not my definition, and you constantly arguing against anything I say is just getting old.

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                • Originally posted by dArK5HaD0w View Post
                  +1.
                  i find it annoying as it reverts back to 'full auto' (d) if i don't change gears within 20-30 secs or something.
                  when i use the paddle shifters, i make sure the gear selector is flicked over into manual (m). no interruptions there

                  i find in 'auto' mode, the dsg computer does a better job downshifting than me in 'manual' mode. its smoother & the engine braking is more effective. hence i find myself in 'auto' 80% of the time.

                  sports (s) mode is no good in suburban traffic driving conditions.
                  Well, at least it is a lot better than my GTI was

                  That used to drop back to auto mode far too quick.

                  The R holds it for much longer
                  8VSS2L/16 E9E9 XG MP SPP1 4ZD 6XK CSC5P with an extra free 10kW

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                  • Hi

                    when I drove out of the dealer on Monday in my new car I thought "S**t, that was a shocking change from D1 to D2" - it almost bunny-hopped. Odd sensation.

                    After 3 days of driving it only in D mode (not tried S mode, apart from in the initial test drive - when I thought it was too harsh - no that's too hard on it, I thought it sounded and felt like it was straining, and I know it maintains revs longer etc so it DOES sound different) I have it sussed I think.

                    You almost have to 'feather' the accelerator, keeping the DSG "almost" engaged...if you give it a tickle, THEN a smooth poke, it is a seemless change and engagement, truly beautiful. It's a fine line, get it wrong and it feels like you're lurching or you're stalling it, but get it right and it is so s-m-o-o-t-h, and THAT'S as designed I think. It's a learning curve. Happy to say I have the feel for it much more than not.

                    Therefore, put me down, at this very early stage, as a lover of it.

                    Rod
                    WHITE 118FSI DSG MY12 Sports Pack with RNS510 Sat Nav - PICKUP Oct 17, 2011. Added Chrome bootlid spear-very nice, Golf doorsill protectors-not so nice and Aluminium Pedal set-EXTREMELY nice!

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                    • Yeah Roddy, it's why I make a point of "correcting people" when they say that the DSG is an automatic. Mechanically it is a manual gearbox (2 actually) with a mechatronics unit which operates the clutches and changes the cogs for you. Treat it with that in mind, and it reacts well. If you treat it as a "torque converter automatic" and just stomp on the pedal and do other stuff you can do in a real automatic, the DSG doesn't always react well.

                      Sometimes people have legitimate mechanical (or software) issues with the DSG, and there sure are a lot of those posts in this thread. Other times it's just becoming familiar with the operation of the DSG and adjusting your style a bit. There's also a lot of those posts in this thread too.

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                      • Originally posted by Corey_R View Post
                        Yeah Roddy, it's why I make a point of "correcting people" when they say that the DSG is an automatic.
                        However, like a torque converter automatic and unlike a left foot clutch manual, it changes gears automatically - so therefore it's an automatic. Where does it say that having a clutch makes it a manual? Or where does it say an automatic needs to have a torque converter? Doesn't automatic mean it will change gears for you automatically? Which is exactly what a DSG will do and a left foot clutch manual never will.
                        Nov '15 Polo 81TSI manual white

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                        • Indeed, it took me a week or two to adapt to it, but the fault that many of us describe is something that appeared later on during ownership, a long time after 'learning' the new techniques.


                          The worst thing about the DSG issues for me is the start-stop traffic I've been in recently. What annoys me is that I can't really use manual mode at such low speeds, since if I'm doing about 9kph in D, it stays in 2nd (sometimes riding the clutch), but in Manual mode it'll switch to 1st a lot earlier, which ends up being a lot more jerky. But yeah, start/stop driving is really bad atm: clunks, hops, shudders, the lot.
                          Some say he was the Stig... all we know is that he drives a VW Transporter.
                          Audi A3

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                          • Whatever Mountainman. I was very clear in saying that it is "mechanically a manual". If you can't understand what I was saying, your loss.

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                            • Originally posted by Corey_R View Post
                              Whatever Mountainman. I was very clear in saying that it is "mechanically a manual". If you can't understand what I was saying, your loss.
                              But what's the point of "correcting people" when they refer to it as an automatic when for most of them most of the time that is exactly what the DSG does and is? Does it really need a torque converter to make it an automatic?
                              Nov '15 Polo 81TSI manual white

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                              • To the end user the functionality is intended to be the same. That is, traditional automatics (with torque converter) and Dual Clutch Automatics, both change gears automatically. To people who don't know or care about car mechanics there are only 2 categories, you either have a manual or automatic.

                                There needs to probably be a distinction between the car and the gearbox. The gearbox is a manual, add on the mechatronic unit (seperate part of the car that controls the clutches) and the car is an automatic.

                                Considering it is both Automatic and Manual (depending on how you look at it), referring to it as either you will be correct and incorrect at the same time. It probably needs a category of it's on. Dual-Clutch Automatic is too much of a mouthful

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