DSG: Problems, Questions, Likes and Dislikes

[MkVIGTI]

There's talk on VWVortex about an ECM software update that fixes the low speed lurching on the 6-speed DSG (TSB NUMBER: 2011690/3 35-11-01). Is this available in OZ?

VWVortex.com - DSG-TDI Updates

I went into my dealer and he said that my software was current. I also had a read into the thread and it seems that this "update" is merely a reset. I have no problems with my DSG so I guess I'll just leave it as it it.

[MkVIGTI]

Think I must be missing something, or my car is faulty..... I have a my11 golf gti and the "manual" mode is anything but manual. If you stick it in 3rd or 4th between 2 to 3K rpm and floor it, what happens? Mine thinks to itself, this guy is nuts, I know better, lets select second, and of it goes. In my case it seems more like a "I would prefer" mode than anything like a manual. This is a shame cause my wife wanted an automatic and I wanted a manual. She seems to have done ok, but I am definetly not happy. Having said that it is a very good automatic, but the way I read other member's comments I expected a proper manual transmission with an automatic clutch.

With the engine off, try and press down the accelerator slowly to the full throttle position, then press further. You should feel the kickdown switch there. You can put the DSG in manual mode and floor it, as long as you don't go past the 100% throttle position and engage the kickdown switch, it will stay in the current gear. I'm new to DSG and the manual mode helped me find this kickdown switch.

[Capercat]

wai, your post is incorrect.
If you select M it will keep the gear that you want, with 3 noteable exceptions:
1) The revs drop so low that the car would stall, so the mechatronics shifts down for you.
2) The revs go too far into the redline, so the mechatronics shifts up for you
3) You push your foot past the 100% throttle resistence point and you press the kick-down switch and the car will shift down a gear or two

You've proved that wai's post is indeed correct. He was simply making the point that there was no direct linkage between the selector, reading the user manual does not change this fact.
Question: has anyone tried clutch starting a DSG?

[Corey_R]

Capercat, I don't want to get into the discussion with you mate. I'm well aware of what the DSG is. Coming in here with "opinions" to attempt to answer a person's question is not helpful. All it's doing is confusing the issue and causing the question to be asked again because the guy doesn't think anyone knows what he's talking about. An actual correct answer has been said 3 times now in the last few pages....

As for clutch starting... there is no clutch pedal... and the owners manual specifically warns against attempting a clutch start.

[Candyman]

I have not had to clutch start a car for more than 30 years

Mind you, I keep my vehicles in good working order and if **** did happen I would fall back on VWs excellent roadside assistance

[Ideo]

You've proved that wai's post is indeed correct. He was simply making the point that there was no direct linkage between the selector, reading the user manual does not change this fact.
Question: has anyone tried clutch starting a DSG?

I agree. It doesn't make it good or bad. It's just a statement of fact.

Ryan, on the last page. Great post. But then people manage to get in a sulk about the number of doors they have.

[Darth]

..at the end of the day does it really matter what transmission you drive?

I got a Candy white car... is it **** because I didnt get rising blue?

Well said, Ryan. It doesn't matter a jot. It would be great though if you could express an opinion about the merits of each or the downsides of one or the other (none of which come to mind for the manual, mind you) without people becoming so defensive (and even abusive) just because you express a view that does not put their particular choice in the best possible light.

MSR also responded in an intelligent considered way here (and I say that even though I would take a manual any day of the week under any conditions this side of a race track):

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/forums/f112/dsg-problems-complaints-dislikes-loveit-41977-66.html

All my cars used to be white, too, but nothing looks cleaner longer than unpainted (or Reflex Silver as VW calls it), I've since found. It's the "new" white!

[SilvrFoxX]

I got a Candy white car... is it **** because I didnt get rising blue?..

Geezuz.. you don't know the answer.. here let me help you ... "YES"

[Corey_R]

Yep good. Now that we all agree on that it doesn't matter which transmission you drive, can we all leave the traditional manual vs DSG stuff out of this thread.

This includes, when a new DSG owner comes in and asks a question, particularly if you're a manual driver who hasn't owned the DSG yourself, please leave out opinion about why car companies might be doing something to protect this that or the other and computer blahblahblah, when the answer has been provided and it's operator error. Forum members should not need to be told about what transmission they "should" have bought, or opinions about theorised stuff when there is a specific factual answer to their question.

Thanks

[brimway]

Well done Corey

[rs73]

13 months so far on my '09 MK6 GTI... 17,000km+ no issues at all with the DSG...

apart from the shift point in 'D' is a bit too low , giving that sluggish feeling on a half throttle // coasting to a traffic light and accelerate again without stopping... it never misses a gear... probably just the way I am used to be driving manual cars... I don't tend to rush the gearbox from reversing to forward drive etc... and yeah anticipating green light I do take off foot from brake slowly so by the time it's green, the clutch would have already grabbed 1st gear...

still the best of both world for me, smooth to shift in traffic - happy with it so far...

[hooba]

[stormshark]

ha ha hooba, thats a good one (even though i drive DSG), very funny!

[ParaBul]

Strange. I have 3 manuals, and none of them keep my right hand busy.

[SMOK3Y]

Strange. I have 3 manuals, and none of them keep my right hand busy.

well holding wheel im hoping lol