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logger, as far as I'm aware, all sequential gearboxes in race cars are push forward to shift down, pull back to shift up. This also matches the forces of gravity on your actions at the time, and also matches flight yokes, motorbike gearboxes, etc etc.
Can only comment on the flight yoke..... it is done that way to be intuitive in the dimensional sense. Nothing to do with longitidinal accelerations. In any case if you pushed the yoke forward the aircraft will (generally speaking) go faster. All the other multitude of flight controls like throttles, mixtures, pitch, reversers, speed brakes, flaps and so on are forward for faster, aft for slower.
I can appreciate how you find it unnatural. I suppose it is a different paradigm to what you see.
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logger, as far as I'm aware, all sequential gearboxes in race cars are push forward to shift down, pull back to shift up. This also matches the forces of gravity on your actions at the time, and also matches flight yokes, motorbike gearboxes, etc etc.
That was my thinking as well, that the direction of the change should match the g-forces of acceleration and braking ie changing up should be a movement towards the back of the car, and changing down should be forwards. The standard across many manufacturers seems to be gear up/forwards, and gear down/backwards though.
This issue actually came up on a recent ep of Top Gear. Jeremy was reviewing a new BMW where they've actually flipped the configuration, and he commented that the BMW boffins had lost their marbles for switching it...
From the responses so far, I think it's not so much what way makes sense more, but rather the first way a person used it. I have a racing wheel setup on my computer which is why I'm used to pulling back to change up. Those that were never familiar with that concept probably have no difficultly pushing up to shift up, and might find it harder to switch afterwards.
If I'm stuck behind a slow car in the hills, twisties, I'll switch to manual mode so that the gearbox doesn't keep choosing a lower gear when the car in front prevents me from needing more power. When I approach an intersection I stick it back in drive so that I don't accidentally shift the wrong way. I got a good chance to use Sport mode today when driving from Leongatha to Trafalgar (VIC) today - great fun as always.
I have a racing wheel setup on my computer which is why I'm used to pulling back to change up.
Yep me too... but there is a reason that they had it that way... because it's the way all the race cars/superkarts/motor bikes in real life have them! This "forward to shift up" is really only something that appeared with these "tip-tronic" automatic boxes and has unfortunately carried over to the DSG.
Yeah - I've seen that in plenty of V8 Supercars, BTCC, and rally races
That, and the G25 has a symbol showing which way the sequential should be orientated
I would love a mod to fix the shifter the right way around. (forward to shift down, back to shift up) wish VW thought of it more. Even normal BMW cars have it like that in the tiptronic setup they use. So when I first used the R box it was something that stuck out a bit as "huh?"
If one was to get the flappy paddles, is it possible to alter them to work in the correct sense, so that the left one upshifts and the right one downshifts
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If one was to get the flappy paddles, is it possible to alter them to work in the correct sense, so that the left one upshifts and the right one downshifts
Lol... I presume you're just trying to stir the boat?
Are there any cars which do actually have the left paddle as the upshift?
Well DSG is starting to really piss me off at least in the polo, doing 60km slowing down to under 20km/h to turn into a side street and the freaking DSG stays in 5-6th gear so you go to accelerate and the car goes no where, you slowly increase the throttle hoping it will soon change gear but no so you push down a little more then it slams it into second and off you go.
Driving in S mode is pretty much perfect apart from it staying in 4th gear when it could be upshifting to 5-6-7th during cruise but this is obviously how the mode works, it's the mode I am mostly driving the polo in now.
If one was to get the flappy paddles, is it possible to alter them to work in the correct sense, so that the left one upshifts and the right one downshifts
Well DSG is starting to really piss me off at least in the polo, doing 60km slowing down to under 20km/h to turn into a side strt and the freaking DSG stays in 5-6th gear so you go to accelerate and the car goes no where, you slowly increase the throttle hoping it will soon change gear but no so you push down a little more then it slams it into second and off you go.
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Stop teasing the car... just give it a decent amount of throttle when exiting the corner.
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