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  • Originally posted by DeanoTDI View Post
    Love the DSG. Best automatic transmission ever. it can be rough though at times, or indecisive. You really need to learn how to drive it. .
    Thats the definition of a BAD automatic in my books

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    • Originally posted by pologti18t View Post
      Thats the definition of a BAD automatic in my books
      By that definition there isn't a good auto in existence.
      2010 MY10 Golf R (Sold) - 5 Door, DSG, Rising Blue, Leather, ACC, Satnav, Dynadio, Sunroof, MDI, Electric Seat.
      2015 MY16 Golf GTI - 5 Door, DSG, Carbon Grey, Leather, Sunroof, DAP.

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      • Originally posted by DeanoTDI View Post
        Love the DSG. Best automatic transmission ever. it can be rough though at times, or indecisive. You really need to learn how to drive it. If you drive it hard when you first get it, it tends to be a bit rougher. If you want to start the learn function again simply ask your Service Department to reset the DSG computer for you. You'll even notice then that it's like a new car when you get back in and it's smooth. It usually takes about 20-30km's for it to adapt to your driving style.
        There's been a been a few posts in this forum claiming that the DSG learns your driving behaviour, which have been rebutted pretty well by logger - apparently the learning process is actually for the DSG electronics to learn about the DSG mechanicals. Whatever it is that goes on, I found the DSG improved hugely over the first couple of hundred km.

        And "rough though at times, or indecisive" doesn't sound like the DSG to me, although it described the Hyundai i30 hire car I had recently pretty well. The more usual DSG complaints are about hesitant/jerky low speed behaviour.
        Golf 118 TSI DSG, white with sports pack.

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        • In addition to the odd behaviour I've described earlier particularly in reverse and particularly when going up a slope it can be very hesitant/jerky as cameronp describes, almost feeling like it was going to stall.

          Despite all the comments I really do like it, just trying to unedrstand when it behaves abnormally.
          MY10 Golf 118tsi DSG | MY07 Polo GTI

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          • Even stopping for 5 seconds with foot on brake at the top of the drive didn't change the behaviour of the DSG.
            MY10 Golf 118tsi DSG | MY07 Polo GTI

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            • Fair enough - it was the only suggestion I could give... I think that it is just something you'll need to account for being the rather unique circumstances you have.

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              • I'm still trying to get used to the DSG at low speeds and at take off - it really does feel like a manual. I hate the take-off lag as well. By the time the car moves the gap in the traffic is all but gone. I've tried turning the car off and pushing the accelerator down for 20 seconds trick - when I start the car and take off, it's nice and quick - but it never stays like that and goes back to normal - so maybe I'm not doing something right. The fact that the previous owner was using crap petrol didn't help either. Putting vPower in the car yesterday made a noticeable difference (there's only one BP that's not near my house and it was rubbish last time I tried it there at that particular servo)
                Some say he was the Stig... all we know is that he drives a VW Transporter.
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                • Originally posted by Ryan_R View Post
                  I'm still trying to get used to the DSG at low speeds and at take off - it really does feel like a manual. I hate the take-off lag as well. By the time the car moves the gap in the traffic is all but gone. I've tried turning the car off and pushing the accelerator down for 20 seconds trick - when I start the car and take off, it's nice and quick - but it never stays like that and goes back to normal - so maybe I'm not doing something right.
                  You're wasting your time, learn how the DSG works and ease off the brake pedal (use the handbrake if you need to whilst you're learning) until the clutches start to grab whilst increasing the revs and you'll find you can take off with zero lag.

                  The fact that the previous owner was using crap petrol didn't help either. Putting vPower in the car yesterday made a noticeable difference (there's only one BP that's not near my house and it was rubbish last time I tried it there at that particular servo)
                  The only way you would notice the difference in the fuel is if you went from a full tank of 92 to a full tank of 98 otherwise you're not going to notice the difference between two 98 fuels.
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                  • Agreed, wasting your time turning the car off and pushing the accelerator down for 20 seconds. My current belief it that myth stems from a VW procedure used on their traditional automatic gearboxes.
                    Golf Mk6 118 TSI DSG |APR Stage I ECU Upgrade | HEX-USB+CAN
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                    • Currently I'm accelerating about 2 seconds before the need arises, or putting it into Sport mode if I need to get a move on quicker.

                      I am of the belief that the car had regular ULP in the tank before. I thought logger was the one that confirmed the procedure to work in another thread - must have my wires crossed. Thanks for your assistance thusfar in this and other threads too, guys.
                      Some say he was the Stig... all we know is that he drives a VW Transporter.
                      Audi A3

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                      • A 2 second delay definitely is not right. Is that all the time?

                        Putting it in sports mode AFAIK (which is not very much ) will not affect the initial 'pickup' but it will hold gears longer.
                        MY10 Golf 118tsi DSG | MY07 Polo GTI

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                        • Originally posted by Ryan_R View Post
                          I thought logger was the one that confirmed the procedure to work in another thread - must have my wires crossed.
                          Yep - wires crossed

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                          Golf Mk6 118 TSI DSG |APR Stage I ECU Upgrade | HEX-USB+CAN
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                          • Who uses "Sports" mode . . . holly crap thats just a "mental" gear selection . I think I've used it twice, just to see what happens, think I had to change my undies.

                            Race Track would be nice though

                            I found the DSG "delay" when its cold. Once its warmed up properly, cant say I notice it.
                            Ex- 2010 Golf GTI
                            Ex - 2015 Skoda Yeti
                            Soon - 2016 Tiguan

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                            • Originally posted by flappa View Post
                              Who uses "Sports" mode . . . holly crap thats just a "mental" gear selection . I think I've used it twice, just to see what happens, think I had to change my undies.

                              Race Track would be nice though

                              I found the DSG "delay" when its cold. Once its warmed up properly, cant say I notice it.
                              After test driving the 118TSI last year I really noticed the turbo lag too - bit unerving on a roundabout, eek!
                              The second test drive didnt seem as bad....think we knew what to expect so compensated for it.
                              When we first test drove the GTI 7 mths later, the first thing we both noticed was the lack of turbo lag in comparrison.

                              Just an observation as Flappa has the GTI whereas Ryan has the 118TSI.
                              Just a thought
                              Last edited by GTI mk6; 16-08-2010, 03:52 PM. Reason: typo
                              Current ride..MY10 Golf MkVI GTI | 5 dr | CW | < DSG >| Leather| Dynaudio | Sensors | Tint | R tails
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                              • It's not a turbo lag that's in question, more the lag/hesitation when the DSG 'engages' first gear from take-off.
                                MY10 Golf 118tsi DSG | MY07 Polo GTI

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