Dynaudio in Mk6 Golf compared to stock?

[Mk6 GTI]

Interesting comments about the mkiv stereos, I had a white mkiv golf with that really ugly black trim on the outside, and it's stereo was pretty good! The bass always surprised me.

I had a friend who installs car audio ask if it was aftermarket!

its true.. the sound was awsome! i had another mate that also had a mk4 and he would always say the same.

[Corey_R]

Meh - I still thought the MKIV GTI had a crap stereo too... but then I was much more jaded about sound quality back then (having spent so much time listening to high end home theater systems whilst researching my purchase).

[Escell]

Have to say Coreying, you're playing in two different leagues there.

Comparing my home theatre to my car will always make me sad.

Having said that that's exactly what I'll do with the Dynaudio in a few days...

[moniker]

I'm picking up a 103 TDI with the stock stereo tomorrow.
I'll report back on what I think the comparison is to my MkIV Bora.
The Bora had the (I assume) stock system with the 6 disc changer in the boot - and to be honest I think it sounded pretty good for what it was.
Nice tight bass and not bad top end.
Cetainly better than most stock systems out there even nowadays.
I'm hoping the Mk VI is even better (I did not get a chance to put my fave. CD's in during the brief test drive)

To follow up, IMHO the stock stereo in the MkVI does not quite measure up to my old MkIV Bora.
Top end is less crisp, bottom end does not extend down quite so far and lacks a bit of 'punch'.

It almost sounds to me like the MkIV has stock cone tweeters and the MKIV had piezo's or some other sort of semi-decent tweeter.
Bottom end - I think the door panel had a bit more substance to it in the MK IV that helped there.
All up 'though, the stereo is not too bad at all in the scheme of things.

Can anyone confirm the tweeter 'type' in the stock MKVI? , and how easily can I fit a decent tweeter in there? I think that may improve the top end and upper mid range quite a bit.


Keith

[nau]

on a topic of Mk4 and Mk6 stock...
can some one compare them?

mk4 got the best stock setup that I have heard at the time so is mk6 set just as good ? or Dynamo is a must for this one... ?

[Corey_R]

From what I've heard, the MK4 stock is better than the MKV/6 stock.
It's been a long time since I've heard the MK4, but at the time I wasn't that impressed by it, and I certainly wasn't impressed by the MKV - but then I have very high standards when it comes to audio, and to be honest, no car could truly meet them (being the car is a completely flawed environment for listening to audio in the first place).

The Dynaudio (lol, Dynamo ) does make an apprecitable difference IF you are serious about your sound. It's not the best system out there by any means, but it's better than anything that you could possibly do by spending only $1300.

Just find a dealer with a Dynaudio in a Golf (whether GTI or not) and take a few CDs and listen for yourself

[STV4SYT]

After a couple of days living with the new GTI (no dynaudio) i can definitely say the standard speakers in this are a lot worse than the standards in the Mk5.

If you appreciate your music loud (or at all)then get it.

I can only comment on the MDI, as ive not as much as put a CD into the player yet, but im comparing RCD510, standard speakers against RCD300- basic ipod adapter and the same iPod with the same tunes.


Dont you hate it when they offer an updated version of something, then make the default version worse to force you to spend extra money on what it should have been like in the first place?

[Corey_R]

If you appreciate your music loud (or at all)then get it.

Hehe - you see, a good system shouldn't require it to be LOUD

[G-rig]

Re: Dynaudio in Mk6 Golf compared to stock?

That's right, it should sound good at any volume with a flat EQ.

Not everyone has experienced good sound so may save themselves some money.

[AdamD]

It's not the best system out there by any means, but it's better than anything that you could possibly do by spending only $1300.

That's a big call, Corey! You can get a lot of quality aftermarket kit for $1300 these days. I'm certainly hoping you're right though, as I've ordered the Dynaudio but haven't yet heard it.

Having listened to the basic RCD-510 at length in several cars (GTIs, Passat CCs), I think it sounds decidedly ordinary. Mind you, I think the audio in my parents' MkV Golfs (both '05 models) is truly awful - far worse than the RCD-510. Especially compared to the stock system in my Accord Euro, which is the best stock system I've heard in a car under $60k.

[G-rig]

That's a big call, Corey! You can get a lot of quality aftermarket kit for $1300 these days. I'm certainly hoping you're right though, as I've ordered the Dynaudio but haven't yet heard it.

It's easily worth $1300 and you can't really get that much GOOD after market gear for $1300.

eg. A pair of 2way Dyn splits would be $850 and nice amps are $800 etc. No point putting in cheap rubbish either.

[AdamD]

It's easily worth $1300 and you can't really get that much GOOD after market gear for $1300.

eg. A pair of 2way Dyn splits would be $850 and nice amps are $800 etc. No point putting in cheap rubbish either.

Definitely agree with you on those points. I guess the real-world issue for the average Joe isn't whether you can get a good setup for $1300, but whether you can improve on the net result of the Dynaudio enhancements for $1300, and hence whether you go down the DIY route instead.

And I apologise for the above statement - I hate arguing semantics.

I'm not 100% convinced you couldn't do better, but I'd be really happy to be proven wrong!

Sound is such a subjective and personal thing and therefore different individuals would choose different mods to suit their music and listening tastes. Subwoofers vs drivers and poweramps vs high-end mids/tweeters, for instance.

[Corey_R]

What G-rig said

These days you can even get ANY good gear from places like Straithfield or JB Hifi or any of these other so called 'car audio specialists' chains. You really need to go to 'boutique car audio' places to get the good equipment.

$1300 is nothing. Even if we look at 'quality value' products like the In-Car Audio 2009 'speaker of the year under $1000' winner, the Focal 165KR (6.5" component speaker kit - KR Kevlar series) - it's $729. Add the matching subwoofer - 27KX (11" Subwoofer) for $819, and even before installation or amplication you're already at $1548 for a good 'value' 2.1 system

Lets not even get into a system with front and rear speakers!

[G-rig]

Too true Corey there isn't much quality gear in the non-specialist car audio shops these days, and once you get into the good gear it adds up quick.

I underquoted before, the RRP of Dyn 242's is $1099 and a 4ch Arc Mini is rrp $999. You could get out of it cheaper with other brands but would still get over the $1300 with two or three pieces of gear.

labor alone would be $200-400 for installation too.

It is annoying you pay 40-60k for the Mk5 's and they come with such a rubbish sound system. The Bose in my 1997 A4 was way better.

[elisiX]

Considering the price we pay for cars in Australia, there should many more options included as standard.

$1300 IMO isn't a lot to ask for the Dynaudio I guess - it's just that this option in combination with a few more very quickly adds up.