GTI vs Cooper S vs Ralliart vs MX-5???

[noone]

What is your criteria? Why do you want an auto?

Just a few ideas for criteria: Seating, comfort, speed / power, luggage, fuel economy, size, looks, gadgets / technology, resale, safety, track-upgrades, etc.

I'll guess at saying it needs to be auto for the wife / someone else to drive as well?

[Zed!]

Thats probably the stupidest question i have heard asked on here. You come on to a Volkswagen Forum, into the MK6 section, put forward a selection of similarly specced and priced cars and ask which people would prefer?

Hmmmm.... i wonder what the responses will be

Chillax and take your valium. Just because it's a VW forum doesn't necessarily mean people will choose a GTi over another model. The GTI has it's shortcomings, as does my R32 which I was aware of when I bought it. If someone posted on here that they were tossing up between an Sti & a R32 & perhaps they wanted to reguarly track the car, I'd suggest the Sti. the Gti isn't perfect and neither is the R32. There are a lot of cars I could quite happily choose over a Golf.

[gareth_oau]

but Zed, if a VW owner and forum member says "I recommend a VW" (as you would expect), but also suggests "that a Cooper S is pretty good", then wouldnt that give you a better impression of the Cooper S?

Also, if the Golf was a problem, then maybe asking the question here might get some honest answers about reliability issues or other problems that forums are renowned for airing.

[GTi Crow]

Well I have had many cars and for a time owned and was in love with a WRX but I have trouble bringing manuals into the drive as my partner will not drive them. I solved this when I bought a Golf MkV GTI DSG and believe it to be the best car I have ever owned. So when it went and I looked at another car the partner balked at the price. So (being an auditor) I went through every know variety of car in the similar price range and analysed what you got for your money and what the golf provided. The assessment included WRX's (no auto knocked it out quick), Liberty GT & Liberty Premium, Cooper S, Mazda 626, BMW 130i, BMW 125i, Merc A200 Turb, Forrester Xt Premium and of course the Mark VI GTI.

I have to say that the Liberty GT came closest, but is but ugly - even the partner would not have it in the drive. The value for money and performance of the GTI won by heaps - but then again i am bias. At least my partner is now happy with my purchase, which is optioned quite a bit.

Your answer - get the GTI you will love it - and it will hold its resale value better than most of the others.

[scheps]

i assume jcw still doesnt have auto? otherwise that is a pretty nice/fast/raw car and not too many on the streets.

[Getti]

Is wondering if anyone else finds it annoying when a "GTI" is referred to as a "GTi"?

Perhaps the moderators need to introduce a sinbin/yellow card system?

Also, I think the reference to the "Subaru GTI" was meant to be "Subaru GT"...

[Corey_R]

Is wondering if anyone else finds it annoying when a "GTI" is referred to as a "GTi"?

Hell yes! It should result in an instant warning points!

[cme2c]

Is wondering if anyone else finds it annoying when a "GTI" is referred to as a "GTi"?

It really upsets us Peugeot drivers.

[Axis]

The moderators could just put an auto correction on it I believe...

[GTi Crow]

Is wondering if anyone else finds it annoying when a "GTI" is referred to as a "GTi"?

Perhaps the moderators need to introduce a sinbin/yellow card system?

Also, I think the reference to the "Subaru GTI" was meant to be "Subaru GT"...

Correct with the Liberty reference being a GT (slip of the pen) and while I know most people refer to it as Golf GTI that does not necessarily make it correct - you should know the official Glass's Guide quote the Golf as a GTi as did many articles and marketing when the Mark V was first released and I bought one. I assume you didn't look to closely at your invoice when you bought your Golf as my Golf dealer's invoice for my Mk 6 also states GTi. So as far as I am concerned I am comfortable that the GTi tag is correct, maybe the moderator can change all the GTI references to go automatically to GTi. It doesn't upset me and it should not you to whatever they call it as long as people are talking about them.

[GTI2708]

Push 5-10k more and get an E46 M3...

RESPECT!

[gareth_oau]

Well I have had many cars and for a time owned and was in love with a WRX but I have trouble bringing manuals into the drive as my partner will not drive them. I solved this when I bought a Golf MkV GTI DSG and believe it to be the best car I have ever owned. So when it went and I looked at another car the partner balked at the price. So (being an auditor) I went through every know variety of car in the similar price range and analysed what you got for your money and what the golf provided. The assessment included WRX's (no auto knocked it out quick), Liberty GT & Liberty Premium, Cooper S, Mazda 626, BMW 130i, BMW 125i, Merc A200 Turb, Forrester Xt Premium and of course the Mark VI GTI.

I have to say that the Liberty GT came closest, but is but ugly - even the partner would not have it in the drive. The value for money and performance of the GTI won by heaps - but then again i am bias. At least my partner is now happy with my purchase, which is optioned quite a bit.

Your answer - get the GTI you will love it - and it will hold its resale value better than most of the others.

Hiya GTi Crow. I read your problem and your audit-style solution, but I think you got it all wrong.

You should have traded in the missus and got a manual

[GoLfMan]

I would NEVER buy a auto MX5, defeats the purpose of a raw roadster (cos of the soft auto)

The Ralliart is poo.

I love the Cooper S, but again, an auto would ruin it.

to the GTI. The DSG is exceptional and it will NOT comprimise the character of the car. I'd definitely test this!

I'd also look at the 123d. That thing would be awesome!

[roy]

never waste over 50k on a Japanese hatch...would rather spend that money on vw/audi/bmw

[GTi Crow]

Hiya GTi Crow. I read your problem and your audit-style solution, but I think you got it all wrong.

You should have traded in the missus and got a manual

Missed that option - that's probably why I am still alive.