Bi-Xenon issues GTI6

[hooba]

This reminds me of a work trip to the Philippines, where I noticed that a lot of the cars would sit at the traffic lights with their headlights turned off. One night whilst getting a lift from a local colleague I noticed he was doing it as well, and I asked him what it was about. He replied that they do it to extend the life of the bulbs, and then nervously laughed as he was embarrassed.

I did consider telling him that he should be putting the car into neutral when going down hill in order to save petrol, but thought better of it in case he decided to try out the "angel gear" whilst I was in the car.

[trueman]

Did you bother reading the thread first?

If $150 is friggin expensive you should rethink your choice of car. You spent $2000 on an option I assume for safety reasons but don't want to use them because you might have to pay $150 for a bulb after 2000-3000 hours (and as posted by Coreying on the previous page this is 70,000km to 105,000km).

In reality we are paying way too much for golfs here and options. Have a look at what they pay in US. A lot cheaper than here even with the exchange rate.
And this european car option scam!!!!
Why not have three levels of spec like say subaru e.g cloth seats std alloys---> leather xenons sunroof ---->leather xenons bigger wheels and satnav etc... This minimises waiting times and cost I am sure.
In retrospect I really regret ordering my car with options. I would have been better off trolling the car yards and picking up a stock with detroits.And adding aftermarket bluetooth tint suspension (if needed)

[Corey_R]

Trueman - get real seriously. Have a look at the price of ANY car in the USA. Using that in any argument is baseless. It's been done in numerous threads and you'll never come to any conclusion because the differences between the USA and Australia (or even the UK) are just too complex.

As for having two or three different equipment specs - in a way, that's why the trendline and comfort line is, but I agree, they could go further. HOWEVER, have a look at ANY thread on this forum about an option and see the ranges of opinion on them. Then try and get ANY consensus (or even a few people) agreeing on what should be included in a luxury pack, and you'll start to understand why the European car companies give you a range of individual options.

[Sute]

If $150 is friggin expensive you should rethink your choice of car. You spent $2000 on an option I assume for safety reasons but don't want to use them because you might have to pay $150 for a bulb after 2000-3000 hours (and as posted by Coreying on the previous page this is 70,000km to 105,000km).

That's the point Maverick. You spend an extra $2K for something that has a design fault. Don't get me wrong, I would've paid even more just to have the xenons because I just love them, but is just bit anoying - that's all.

[Maverick]

That's the point Maverick. You spend an extra $2K for something that has a design fault. Don't get me wrong, I would've paid even more just to have the xenons because I just love them, but is just bit anoying - that's all.

Where's the design fault? I can't see how the lights operating when the car is turned on is an operating fault. This could be turned off with vagcom/vcds anyway if you wanted to.

Still if that's all you've got to be annoyed about with the car that's probably a good indicator as to VW getting the car too perfect.

[Lams]

for those who have VCDS and want to have a go at fixing the bi-xenon issue themselves, thsi may be helpful: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4743553

[Corey_R]

Where's the design fault? I can't see how the lights operating when the car is turned on is an operating fault. This could be turned off with vagcom/vcds anyway if you wanted to.

Still if that's all you've got to be annoyed about with the car that's probably a good indicator as to VW getting the car too perfect.

Exactly. If I purchased a GTI, since it doesn't have a 'LED Strip' for the DRL's, if the Bi-Xenon's weren't already programmed this way I'd be asking my dealer to change it so the Bi-Xenons always came on when the car is in use. Being more visible to other drivers is only a good thing, and paying $150 every 70,000 to 105,000km is a small price to pay for that additional safety. It's almost like a really cheap insurance policy

[Sute]

Where's the design fault? I can't see how the lights operating when the car is turned on is an operating fault. This could be turned off with vagcom/vcds anyway if you wanted to.

Still if that's all you've got to be annoyed about with the car that's probably a good indicator as to VW getting the car too perfect.

The "design fault' are VW words and not mine (I've mentioned this in this post earlier). Next time you visit your local dealer ask them to show you the official VW memo (as they can't provide you with a print out - internal policy).

Thanks for the link Lams, I wish we all have VAG-COMs to play with the settings while stuck in traffic in Sydney.
As far as I can see in this post, they still haven't figured out how to have only the City\Parking lights as the DLRs.

[shaq]

for those who have VCDS and want to have a go at fixing the bi-xenon issue themselves, thsi may be helpful: http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=4743553

Thanks Lams on the link..

I am going to call VW service department and ask them to turn the DRL's off as yes for me it Pees me off.. and if they say at this stage they dont know.. Ill just print out the simple instructions as per that link and show them. When they service the car, from what i have read they generally connect the car up via VAGCOm to ensure all systems are check and everything is A ok .. right?? So if they can do that.. surely they will be able to go into the menues and change it as per the link and then WALLA Problem solved!

[trueman]

Trueman - get real seriously. Have a look at the price of ANY car in the USA. Using that in any argument is baseless. It's been done in numerous threads and you'll never come to any conclusion because the differences between the USA and Australia (or even the UK) are just too complex.

As for having two or three different equipment specs - in a way, that's why the trendline and comfort line is, but I agree, they could go further. HOWEVER, have a look at ANY thread on this forum about an option and see the ranges of opinion on them. Then try and get ANY consensus (or even a few people) agreeing on what should be included in a luxury pack, and you'll start to understand why the European car companies give you a range of individual options.

I am serious. We all get caught up in the VW/ GTI hype and seem to accept the little/big reliability issues that cheaper cars don't have !!

[MkVIGTI]

I called up my dealer the other day and I asked him whether he can do the sweeping needles on start up for me through the Vagcom and he was reluctant about it, saying something about taking on the extra responsibility for the changes through the software so I doubt they are gonna help us change the Bi Xenon programs...

[shaq]

I called up my dealer the other day and I asked him whether he can do the sweeping needles on start up for me through the Vagcom and he was reluctant about it, saying something about taking on the extra responsibility for the changes through the software so I doubt they are gonna help us change the Bi Xenon programs...

Yeah.. I could probally understand him saying a no to the sweeping needles on start up.. (I didnt know that on the GTI you can actually select that) If ya can whoo hoo that would be kool.. I kinda like that feature when you see it on the subies. But Turning an expensive light off VW need to come to the party.. if a forum member can do it .. surely they can since it is not by law that we need them on over here.. O_O

[MkVIGTI]

Update: I have just received my car and the sweeping needles were implemented by the dealer, he has also managed to turn off the Bi Xenons so that they are not used as the DRL!

[Corey_R]

Update: I have just received my car and the sweeping needles were implemented by the dealer, he has also managed to turn off the Bi Xenons so that they are not used as the DRL!

That's good news mate.
I wonder if you're able to let us know the service guys name and the dealer, so that other members here can tell their dealers to contact that person for information. I too saw a MK6 GTI with Bi-Xenon with the correct globe being used as the DRL (the little one underneath and kinda between the two main bulbs) this morning on the way to work, so the info is filtering out there, just too slowly!

[shaq]

Update: I have just received my car and the sweeping needles were implemented by the dealer, he has also managed to turn off the Bi Xenons so that they are not used as the DRL!

BOO YEAH !!..

Brother.. Please do tell which VW dealer did this for you and the name of the technician that did this please. I BEG YOU

So i can get this sorted with mine ASAP