GTi Question

[KWICKS]

Yeah, the S3 is similar to this, although I haven't found any literature to confirm this. But if you have the car in neutral and put your foot flat on the gas pedal the car won't rev past 4000rpm. While there is a two stage switching process to turn off ASR (traction control), then ESP, when I had the S3 on the skidpan I was unable to properly spin the wheels from a standing start.

My Liberty 3.0R-B does this, albeit with a 5000RPM limit in 1st, clutch in. It's drivetrain protection against full bore dumps.

[pologti18t]

For a track car maybe one of these is better... pity no new ones still around

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8233366&keywords=r26&tsrc=allcarhome&__Ntk=CarAll&__Nne=15&__Dx=mode%20matchany&__D=r26&silo=1011&seot=1&__sid=11C52270E001&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294963762%204294963380&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32%7c1%7c%7cpCar_PriceSort_Decimal%7c1%7c%7cpCar_Make_String%7c0%7c%7cpCar_Model_String%7c0&__Qpb=true&__Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial&Cr=5&__Ntt=r26&trecs=7

[AdamD]

Motor magazine has done a few write-ups on the MkVI GTI, and are pretty critical of the fact the ESP can't be fully disabled. They claim it slows the car substantially in terms of track lap times when in the hands of a pro, and from the way they describe it, I would not automatically conclude that the ESP OFF button raises the ESP threshold much, if at all. I recall reading that all the ESP OFF button does is disable the traction control (happy to be corrected if this isn't the case, but it'd be good to get a definitive answer either way).

If motorkhana is your thing, and you're not 100% clear on what the available mods can do for you, I'd hold off on a purchase till you can verify the car's behaviour meets your needs (or otherwise).

[trueman]

LOL you're not serious are you? What better way to make good use of the purchase!!

May as well get a barina with free sunroof and drive from a-b!

you'd look good in a barina dave

[trueman]

Drive them to the limits. What's the point in owning something and not using it to its full potential? Especially when the full potential of the higher performance models costs a lot more. I'd hardly call driving a car within the limits of its capability "thrashing". I had mine at a track day for its run-in, two days after I bought it!

Lets get a survey going. Not everyone who buys a "sportscar" is a boyracer!
I am sure if diehards like yourself were the only purchasers the GTI wouldn't exist ie limited market.

[Rocket36]

I'm sorry. Where did I claim to be a "boyracer"? I don't even know what one is. I enjoy the full potential of my car in safe, controlled environments such as closed tracks at driver training facilities. Just as I do on my B-King. I only race in race cars.

All I said is what's the point of spending such a large amount of money on something and then not fully utilising it? It'd be like buying a brand new high spec computer to play minesweeper... Let's get a survey going and see how many people think that'd be a good idea. I apologise if you mis-understood the point I was trying to make. I should have been clearer to start with.

[GTi3dr]

Thanks for the info guys, I've got all the info I need