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  • Getting off the line quickly with DSG - What technique?

    What techniques are being used to get a fast get away from the lights in a Golf VI with DSG? I would like to know what works best.

    I have been getting off the brake and then getting on the throttle lightly until rolling. Once rolling and I feel the clutch is fully engaged I then apply full throttle. My technique is smooth but not the fastest.

    Cheers,
    Dave.
    Golf 90tsi
    DSG
    Comfort Package

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    I believe you hold the brake on, and push the accelerator to 3000RPM.
    Lift the brake and away you go.


    It engages launch control if you do this and is apparently the best way to do it.
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    • #3
      What he Said ^^^^^

      But do remember you will have a slight pause on pull away first. So factor that in.
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      • #4
        There is only launch control on the GTI and R32. trying it in anything else is likely to damage the gearbox.

        I find a light use of handbrake works well, as the foot brake disengages the clutch until released. using the hand brake to hold the car back until it bits then floor it.

        That is one of the downsides of the gearbox over either a regular auto or manual.
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        • #5
          7dsg does not have launch control. Its designed and set up for economy not the track.

          I find on hill starts using hand brake deactivates hill hold and i can better synchronise brake release and clutch engagement using the handbrake. Handbrake-clutch co-ordination for a quick getaway might also work on level ground.

          Tiptronic take up is more responsive (and more sudden), so using the tiptronic will help.
          Last edited by cktsi; 09-02-2010, 07:48 AM. Reason: (used shorthand mobile speak instead of typing proper sentences)
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          • #6
            Originally posted by steve_tdi View Post
            There is only launch control on the GTI and R32. trying it in anything else is likely to damage the gearbox.

            I find a light use of handbrake works well, as the foot brake disengages the clutch until released. using the hand brake to hold the car back until it bits then floor it.

            That is one of the downsides of the gearbox over either a regular auto or manual.
            I misread it and thought the thread was aobut the mk6 GTI.

            Handbrake is then the best option.
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            • #7
              Can't see why VW can't get this right. After all, their claim is that the DSG changes gears in a nanosecond. So if you are already in D and stationery, and release the brake, it should instantly select 1st gear. Logger might explain that it's got 1st or reverse preselected, but I can't see why when you already in D, ie you are planning to go forward.

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              • #8
                If you blip the accelerator a second or 2 before launch, i believe it selects first gear and allows a quicker take off.
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                • #9
                  Well now that I've done my first 2000k's is it an appropriate time to trial launch control? (Yes it is a GTI, so has launch control)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by team_v View Post
                    If you blip the accelerator a second or 2 before launch, i believe it selects first gear and allows a quicker take off.
                    Yeah - this technique was mentioned in the 6spd DSG for dummies - Funny's unofficial guide at GolfMKV forums. Unfortunately I don't have a DSG car to test it right now, but I'd sure love it if someone else tried this and reported (both for 7sp and 6sp DSG).

                    Btw, the 'DSG lag' from standstill has reportedly been all but eliminated in the Golf R.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cktsi View Post
                      7dsg does not have launch control. Its designed and set up for economy not the track.
                      .. and also the DSG7 clutches are designed to last the life of the car. Implementation of Launch Control and using it would probably compromise this design criteria.

                      Originally posted by soogs View Post
                      Can't see why VW can't get this right. After all, their claim is that the DSG changes gears in a nanosecond. So if you are already in D and stationery, and release the brake, it should instantly select 1st gear. Logger might explain that it's got 1st or reverse preselected, but I can't see why when you already in D, ie you are planning to go forward.
                      No. Anytime you are stationary in D or S (or T) first gear IS already selected. 1st & R will only be concurrently selected if you are in P or N. If "you are already in D and stationery, and release the brake" the K1 clutch will start to engage. The manner in which it engages depends on what if anything you do with the accelerator pedal. The result can be anything from rolling backwards to lurching forward Hopefully we achieve something satisfactory in between. If I want a quick start I just use S.

                      Originally posted by team_v View Post
                      If you blip the accelerator a second or 2 before launch, i believe it selects first gear and allows a quicker take off.
                      Not so, see above. Quicker take off might be because this process emulates riding the clutch as one might do in a manual.

                      PS all this relates to the DSG7 of course as I have not looked at the 6.
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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the replies. I will have the Golf tomorrow so I will try it in tiptronic and sport. As the car has less than 1000km I have not been too aggressive yet.

                        Cheers,
                        Dave.
                        Golf 90tsi
                        DSG
                        Comfort Package

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by steve_tdi View Post
                          There is only launch control on the GTI and R32. trying it in anything else is likely to damage the gearbox.
                          speaking for myself- the GT Sport has launch control.

                          Push DSG over to manual, turn off ESP, brake, rev, release brake- away you go with some hefty squeal!!!

                          Any owners of non R32 gti gt sport models please chime in?
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