Golf R 3 door/5 door speculation/information thread

[Corey_R]

He had the Golf R on the autobahn, where it is designed to excel in this environment. Averaged 180kph for half hour and 160kph for 2 hour drive. States R likes a drink at those speeds, nowhere near the 8.5l/100km claim figure.

Well that's a bit of a silly comment. NO CAR gets their 'claimed economy figures' when driven at 180 and 160kph! lmao

[WhiteJames]

^Agree totally. I suprised that the journo mentioned this, but to clarify my writing, he mentioned the fuel consumption and the higher speeds in different parts of his article, also suggesting that fuel consumption at more moderate speeds when it was icey/snowy, was not as good as expected. In any event, fuel economy shouldn't be overly overly excessive either. I think the journos point was that perhaps the GTI/Sirocco or similar, driven in a similar manner, may fair better in terms of fuel consumption, due to less heat to contend with and lighter weight.

Cheers
WJ

[G-rig]

;466283I think the journos point was that perhaps the GTI/Sirocco or similar, driven in a similar manner, may fair better in terms of fuel consumption, due to less heat to contend with and lighter weight.

Cheers
WJ

That's what i assumed.. You can be doing high speeds without gunning it as such, but the revs will be higher than doing lower speeds so of course it will use more. The R32 fuel never gets it's claimed consumption figures .

[WhiteJames]

^Exactly. Very unlikely to replicate the official consumption levels in real world conditions. But trying to obtain a gauge on how much the R is likely to use over and above offical claims. The official claims of 21% less fuel usage of the R verses the R32 seems good on paper, but both driven in a similar way or same roads, I'd imagine the claimed saving of the Golf R would be much less so. Point earlier in this thread, to keep the turbo cool, the air coming in and out of the motor has to be kept cooler, with either cooler air intake temp or more fuel or combination of both. No fuel consumption figures were stated in the Top Gear article.

Cheers.
WJ

[JVLR32]

That's what i assumed.. You can be doing high speeds without gunning it as such, but the revs will be higher than doing lower speeds so of course it will use more. The R32 fuel never gets it's claimed consumption figures .

it never will because they would have to start makin them again....lol

[Corey_R]

Very unlikely to replicate the official consumption levels in real world conditions. But trying to obtain a gauge on how much the R is likely to use over and above offical claims. The official claims of 21% less fuel usage of the R verses the R32 seems good on paper, but both driven in a similar way or same roads, I'd imagine the claimed saving of the Golf R would be much less so.

I would disagree with this too. Because then you're comparing 'real world' R fuel consumption to the 'Australia fuel consumption test claim' for the R32. If you compared the real world for both, the R possibly has greater than a 21% saving compared to the R32. Compare apples to apples my friend

[WhiteJames]

Testing regimes vary from continent to continent. Top Gear article seems to suggest that the 8.5 litre per 100km while autobahn driving is 'impossible' to acheive', suggesting that they tried for a while on the autobahn. This was done earlier during the inclement whether. Trip later on in the article, with clement weather conditions was performanced at just over 4,000rpm at average of about 180kph for about half an hour. Then 160kph over a two hour period, but no mention of fuel consumption. I formed the opinion that they tried both economy & performance runs.

Cheers.
WJ

[G-rig]

I think the point is the Golf R would use more fuel than the GTI, but that's to be expected.

[Corey_R]

I'm not sure WJ really gets what point he's trying to convey...

Of course the R is higher fuel consumption than the GTI. Of course the R32 is higher fuel consumption than the R. Of course autobahn speeds, whether driven with performance or economy in mind are going to be higher consumption than the 100kph of Australian highways...

[WhiteJames]

Issue gleaned from reading the TG article was that 'impossible' is a very strong word. It's improbable to replicate the official claimed fuel usage, but in favourable conditions in the real world, a driver should be able to get close to the claimed figures. I have in my MKV GTI on longer trips. The word impossible suggests that they couldn't get close to the official claim. Maybe I'm reading too much into semantics.

Edit: Part of the journey was on Czech 130kph roadways, so not too much faster than Aus roadways.

Cheers
WJ

[Tim]

man some people know how to suck the joy out of life.
Here we are at the verge of an annoucement by VW on what spec R we will be seeing here in Australia and you guys are discussing fuel economy? My brain is gonna start oozing out my nose if we keep heading in this direction. No wonder VWA are in uberconservative mode.

[G-rig]

I think you're bound to discuss most topics sitting on here, waiting and talking about it for six months to a year.

[Corey_R]

Maybe I'm reading too much into semantics.

I'd say so. You almost never see a reviewer meet the claimed consumption - mostly cause they are 'testing out' the car. Also, new cars take a while to 'work in' before they get to their optimal conditions etc.

@Tim - lol - on the verge? We're still a while away from May! But you're right, fuel consumption is boring. If WJ is really concerned about it, he should buy a diesel

I'm still more concerned about the possible lack of 3 door model, and having my dreams of owning a Golf R crushed.

[WhiteJames]

^Okay ... no more on fuel consumption. On another footing, I anticipate that the release of the 3 door Golf R, if not imminent in July 2010, will be staggered as was the case of the MKV GTI. From overseas reports and pricing, it looks like the Euro/UK market looks more profitable with pricing atm, so sales may be diverted to those markets until production numbers are increased. Similar to what occurred with the MKV GTI.

Cheers.
WJ

[G-rig]

Yeah the 3dr usually come out after so I wouldn't worry about it too much yet.

Dont know why people would be willing to scrap the R altogether as 5dr looks almost the same anyway.