Mk6 LED Taillights

[Ozram]

Whats the difference between getting the lights and the badge!? I think they both look good.

I think the lights only add 5bhp

[GTI mk6]

Well, just to add another curly one to the mix.....
Got the call back from local VW dealership to tell me the following after the manager had talked to VWA about whether they
could re-code the light bulb blown for me, & to get a price for installing the LED's (maybe).

First case scenario was if they supplied the lights, cables, fitted & recoded them for me.....drum roll $1900 approx!
WHAAAAT.
Well the cost of the lights was pretty much as Elwin had stated in his quote from his dealership, then there was wiring & labour
BUT he also said that it wasnt just a case of re-coding, but a whole new module would need to go in to accomodate the different
power resistance between the stock standard lights & the LED's (guys, I am not technical minded) and know I couldnt get past
the $1900 feedback, so starting to zone out a bit
Apparently VWA said if this module isnt replaced, there can be issues down the track which may cause bigger problems.
They also said the added cost was the reason they didnt go with the LED's as standard on the GTI to start with.

The dealership has been told unless this module is changed they are not authourised to do the job.

Now I know you guys will wonder why I just dont do what you all have, believe me I DO want these lights (as in really want) but
I would feel more at ease if they could have been able to be re-coded via the dealership re:any the warranty.
Right now I am wondering what Browny's dealership will do with the re-coding if he buys his lights & cable via Ozrams contact?
Mine & his are affiliated actually so I would have thought it would be the same deal at both? So feeling right now

[AdamD]

BUT he also said that it wasnt just a case of re-coding, but a whole new module would need to go in to accomodate the different power resistance between the stock standard lights & the LED's... Apparently VWA said if this module isnt replaced, there can be issues down the track which may cause bigger problems.

Well, my initial thought on this is that you've just been charged the "fob off" tax.

The information supplied to me by the VW dealership that sold me my tails is that there are two versions of the light controller (to week 45 build 2009, and from week 46 2009 onwards). There are several versions of the software that runs the controller. The old controller uses software with a version of 03xx (latest version 0361), and between weeks 22 and 45 for 2009 builds there was a modified version of the old controller in use, running software versions 0537 or 0541. The newer controller (for Golfs built from week 46 2009 onwards - so, yours and mine) runs software version 05xx (currently up to 0573 or 0575).

There has never, in any of the forums I've read on the subject, been any mention of any other mysterious new module that's required to run the LEDs. There has, however, been plenty of talk about the modules discussed above, as the ability to fit the LEDs, and code them correctly, depends on it.

If you're really concerned about this, I suggest you ask your dealer for the part number(s) and software details for this new module, and then post that info here. We'll then try to track down the details (using ETKA or erWin possibly), and find out if there really is a separate controller or not.

I'm a huge stickler for warranty, OEM, and doing things by the book. But in this case, I'm sure it's all above board.

[Browny]

Adam

your knowledge and attention to detail is extremely comforting... I was wondering, if the build dates do have a lot to do with it, then should mine be ok as it is coming off the production line on the 8th Sept 2010?

When I mentioned it to my dealer about recoding etc, he didn't blink an eyelid (not that I could see through the phone anyway).... Therefore, I am hoping that Gti mk6 did just get the "too hard basket" fob off...

I will ring my dealer again just to make sure...

Cheers

[AdamD]

I was wondering, if the build dates do have a lot to do with it, then should mine be ok as it is coming off the production line on the 8th Sept 2010?

The detailed version info I have comes from the printout from the German VW dealer, and relates to coding for the LEDs depending on the light module and software for the car in question. If your car is built with the same controller and software as mine was in March 2010, then based on my experience (and those of others who've done this mod and posted in this thread), you'll be fine. There's no guarantee that VW won't change the hardware or software between now and when your car is built (necessitating changes to hardware and/or coding), but it's very likely that if there is a change that affects your car, then VW dealers and parts distributors will be informed of it, and that information should find its way to the forums. If you're concerned, keep an eye on this VWVortex thread and other sources relating to the LEDs, before you order them. Steve P, author of this DIY, also sells the LEDs, and could be a good person to ask if you have any questions.

As an aside, many people from Australia, Europe and the US have done this mod, and I haven't seen anything suggesting there are any adverse side-effects to making the change.

[Browny]

Thanks Adam, much appreciated.

Cheers

[Hail]

Recoding complete and no bulb out warnings now .

Thanks again to Ozram.

[GTI mk6]

Well, my initial thought on this is that you've just been charged the "fob off" tax.


If you're really concerned about this, I suggest you ask your dealer for the part number(s) and software details for this new module, and then post that info here. We'll then try to track down the details (using ETKA or erWin possibly), and find out if there really is a separate controller or not.

I'm a huge stickler for warranty, OEM, and doing things by the book. But in this case, I'm sure it's all above board.

Thanks so much Adam for offering to do this, yeah that was my initial thought too "fob me off".
I did phone service dept back this morning requesting part no and name of software, waiting on call back when service
manager gets back to workshop.
Will post info once I receive it.
Gotta say here, that you guys make being a part of this forum worth while and thanks for the amount of support
and very informative advise you contribute to us all

[AdamD]

I did phone service dept back this morning requesting part no and name of software, waiting on call back when service manager gets back to workshop. Will post info once I receive it.

No worries mate. Unfortunately my copy of ETKA lunched itself and I had to remove it (and don't currently have access to the disc), but I'm sure there'll be several very knowledgeable members on here (Maverick, coreying, Ozram to name but three) who may well be able to help out with the info you're after.

It would also be good if a member with a VAG-COM and a 2010 build GTI could post the details on their central electrics module as reported in VCDS, as a point of comparison. Here's an example taken from the first post in the VWVortex thread by a US GTI owner:

Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 937 087 F HW: 1K0 937 087 F
Component: BCM PQ35 H 103 0575
Revision: 00103 AG
Coding: 69180A3E90272AC40008008170000D0445050086534D8D6064 8020200000
Shop #: WSC 93007 999 58668

Part No: 1K1 955 119 F
Component: Wischer 08011 21 0512
Coding: 009795

And on that, if an R owner could possibly do the same, including the Coding string that reveals the value of byte 18 for the central electrics module, that'd also be interesting, as the R ships to Australia with LEDs factory fitted.

[G-rig]

These must be the other OEM LED's on GTI's overseas:

Hard to believe they are genuine lights as they look a bit tacky, but maybe it's just a bad photo.

[Corey_R]

They are not OEM at all....

Dectane are an aftermarket LED specialist in Germany

[Ozram]

They are not OEM at all....

Dectane are an aftermarket LED specialist in Germany

And they look fricken awful IMO

[G-rig]

They are not OEM at all....

Dectane are an aftermarket LED specialist in Germany

My bad, thought they were the same as the link I posted earlier (but assume those aren't OEM either).

Golf 6 Autobahnracer LED taillights, red/crystal

I agree though they are very poxy like what you'd see on a Mazda.

[REXman]

Hey the OEM LED GTI lights, look exactly the same as the R lights, only difference is the cover on the R is a darker smoky red, whereas the GTI has a normal bright red.

You know the front of that car doesn't look too bad. Sort of going forth Audi look. But yeah not feeling those rears at this point

[jeeteeay]

Received my LED Tail Light from Ozram's Source @ Germany, after 3 weeks wait...looks awesome But...I haven"t got my car yet ..lol

The dealer called me today, the car will be ready for pick up next Friday....finally after 5 months wait


Thanks Ozram!!