First service at 7,500 km?

[Golf Mark 6]

Hi guys,

I've tried searching through the forums but I couldn't find the answer to this question. If it's been addressed before I apologize!

there seems to be a major difference between the service intervals recommended by the logbook in my car (every 15,000) and the dealer's sticker (7,500).

[STV4SYT]

Official service intervals are every 15k. the handbook says 7,500 "In extreme conditions"

Dealer obviously trying to get more servicing out of their customers. servicing every 15k will not do any harm or invalidate your warranty.

[Golf Mark 6]

Surely this is illegal?

I can just imagine the dealership making rubbish up when I try trade the car in for my next car that they can't offer me the full value because I havebn't serviced it every 7,500 km...

[Maverick]

Hi guys,

I've tried searching through the forums but I couldn't find the answer to this question. If it's been addressed before I apologize!

there seems to be a major difference between the service intervals recommended by the logbook in my car (every 15,000) and the dealer's sticker (7,500).

Did the dealer tell you that you had to get the car serviced every 7500km/6 months? Or is it just the sticker you're relying on? Some dealers offer a free inspection at 7500kms/6 months and that's what it could be with an oil top up if required at no charge.

Official service intervals are every 15k. the handbook says 7,500 "In extreme conditions"

Dealer obviously trying to get more servicing out of their customers. servicing every 15k will not do any harm or invalidate your warranty.

Service at 15,000kms if operating under "Severe Condtions" will create warranty issues. And unless I misread the OP it doesn't say what the 7500km/6 month service is for and it may be an inspection.

Severe operating conditions
If the vehicle is used under severe operating conditions some jobs will have to be performed before the next service due or at shorter service intervals.

Severe operating conditions as defined by Volkswagen.

• Regular short trips or stop and go operation in urban traffic
• High percentage of cold starts
• Vehicle is used in areas with winter temperatures over a long period
• Regular long periods of idling (e.g. taxis)
• Vehicle is often driven under full load or towing a trailer
• Using diesel with elevated sulphur content
• Regular operation in areas with high levels of dust

[Golf Mark 6]

Unfortunately, no it's not an inspection, it's a service.

Just called the dealership and asked exactly what was involved in the service, and it's pretty much an oil change and nothing much else. For this they charge $320.

My previous car was a Barina, and that seemed to be able to go for 10,000 between servicing, pretty sure my German built engine can do the same.

I'm not peeved with the oil change, I know how important lubrication is to an engine, and I'll probably get the oil change done at another specialist mechanic, I'm just peeved that the dealership is fleecing people out of an extra $300 every six months for what amounts to an oil change I could probably do on my driveway (using the correct oil of course).

Especially when the car is designed for servicing every 15,000.

[Maverick]

Unfortunately, no it's not an inspection, it's a service.

Just called the dealership and asked exactly what was involved in the service, and it's pretty much an oil change and nothing much else. For this they charge $320.

Negotiate the price down or find another dealer. I pay ~$157 for my 6 monthly oil changes. The oil used is a 504.00/507.00 oil as well so worth over $100 retail.

My previous car was a Barina, and that seemed to be able to go for 10,000 between servicing, pretty sure my German built engine can do the same.

Was it turbo and/or supercharged as well?

I'm not peeved with the oil change, I know how important lubrication is to an engine, and I'll probably get the oil change done at another specialist mechanic, I'm just peeved that the dealership is fleecing people out of an extra $300 every six months for what amounts to an oil change I could probably do on my driveway (using the correct oil of course).

Especially when the car is designed for servicing every 15,000.

I'd check with the other dealers to see what they charge.

As for the servicing intervals really depends on the driving, most of Australia fall under the severe servicing interval IMO and whilst the NA cars could easily go the 12 months 15,000kms I wouldn't want to do that with a turbo and/or supercharged car.

[Corey_R]

I'd sit in the middle of Maverick and the dealer and the owners manual.

I'd say just get the thing serviced every 15,000km/12 months, but change the oil and the filter yourself every 7,500km/6 months. The spares/service dept will be happy to order you a few spare filters and bottles of oil. Or you could source them somewhere else if you wanted.

This way you still have the log book stamped appropriately for your warranty and resale, plus the piece of mind of having fresh oil and filter

[Supreme]

7,500km is just an oil change. Do it yourself, it's pretty easy.

15,000km is a real service.

[MaccaTSI]

In regards to the first service, has anyone had a look at the service section in the MFD??

I've had my car a few months now, but the MFD says the service is due at 17,800kms or 444 days

I'm pretty sure last time I checked it, it showed 16,000 odd km, so it seems to be going up....

[Preen59]

The oil used is a 504.00/507.00 oil as well so worth over $100 retail.

Man i'm glad i don't pay retail! The Brad Penn oil ("Green Oil") we put in the dragster's mill is $120/case, and that's going in a blown Nitro engine!

[chris.]

first inpection service is at 1000kms

then first service is at 15000kms or one year whatever comes first

then 30 000
45 000
60 000 & so on

it was probably a screw up at PD (pre delivery)
we always get weird service stickers come from them say 5k 7.5k one even said 100 000kms lmao
they are a bunch of twats & are normaly not to do with the dealership or service department.


on a side note its not a bad thing at all to service your car sooner than what is sepcified

i do mine every 2.500 - 3000kms with mobil1 ($130) plus filter & other parts if needed

gl with it man

[cme2c]

All you guys who service every 3000km Do you do a decoke? adjust the brakes? grease the grease nipples? clean the points? No, of course you don't.

Modern oils are far, far better than anything around when the service schedule for my Bedford was put out in 1975. I now get that serviced every 10,000kms.

The service interval on the MFD in the Golf was on 24000 last I looked. The recommended service interval in Europe for my Peugeot is 20000 MILES! (32,000 kms.)

I am happy to follow the 15,000 Kms on the Golf, and have been following the 20,000 km with my Peugeot with no apparent ill effects in over 90,000 kms. The Peugeot runs fully synthetic ELF oil.

Changing oil 5 times as often means 5 times as much waste oil. Unnecessary, polluting and expensive. If anyone has oil analysis to prove me wrong, I'd like to see it.

[Corey_R]

Changing oil 5 times as often means 5 times as much waste oil. Unnecessary, polluting and expensive. If anyone has oil analysis to prove me wrong, I'd like to see it.

Yeah, I've been having this discussion with a friend of mine recently. Whoever come up with this 10,000km thing did so a long long time ago. Everything else in the world has improved, so why do people think that the quality of engine manufacturing and oil hasn't improved?!

[Maverick]

Modern oils are far, far better than anything around when the service schedule for my Bedford was put out in 1975. I now get that serviced every 10,000kms.

And engines and oils are different now. Modern oils may be improved but they have a lot more to do.

Chevron Oil has a technical doc that shows 70 percent of the parasitic drag is from the shearing of oil molecules between bearing surfaces and bearing journals. Change the oil more often and it reduces this.

Oils are lighter now and are expected to work harder which reduces their life as does the temperature of the engine which are hotter than ever before (for efficiency reasons). More power is being extracted as well, there are closer tolerances and engines work harder.

The service interval on the MFD in the Golf was on 24000 last I looked. The recommended service interval in Europe for my Peugeot is 20000 MILES! (32,000 kms.)

That's good but how does that apply to Australia which has different conditions?

Changing oil 5 times as often means 5 times as much waste oil. Unnecessary, polluting and expensive. If anyone has oil analysis to prove me wrong, I'd like to see it.

The oil is recycled, fuel consumption drops with fresh oil and it protects the engine. Changing the oil often is really the best way to maintain an engine in top condition.

[pomme]

I might consider 7,500 for the first one or two... but probably slip to 15,000 oil changes after that.

I would seriously think every 2,500 to 3,000 is overkill, but good on you if you want to keep it as fresh as possible.