118TSI - General Discussion

[Dubman]

Hi guys,

Just got my Revo Stage 1 ecu upgrade today, i was intially intending
on getting the apr stage 1 ecu upgrade as there is a xmas special with them
at the moment as well. But as i found out when i went to get it today was
that there wasn't any software for my car just yet? Even tho APR claimed on there website that the mk6 1.4 tsi twincharger ecu was availiable, The guy claimed that all ecu are different and all have different codes so i'd either have to wait till someone with same coding as mine got it first then ill be able, or i take my ecu out and send it to brisbane to get my ecu reflashed and be without a car for 1-2 weeks.

Apart from that problem with apr not being able to offer me the reflash the Revo stage 1 is quite good. Intially took about 30mins to do the install.

Alot more torque/power .
No more lag from stop.
Nice rumble from exhaust now.
..

Just having a look at http://www.revotechnik.com/products/...aspx?pvID=1196 and they claim a power increase to 163kw - is that for real? The others (APR, Bluefin etc) are all around the 150kw mark.

Did you get it from Peak Performance? Can you switch it back to stock mode easily?

[Liquid]

The ONLY issues are:
1) Really, really annoying rattle in the driver-side door (maybe B pillar). Almost a squeaking between two materials, but rattly, if I put my arm on the arm rest, it stops. Only shows up on coarse-chip bitumen.
Does anyone else have this, or have any suggestions for fixing it?
It sounds like it is perhaps on the passenger side as well, but it's hard to tell when driving by myself!
2) Slightly less refined when the aircon is on, in that there is more shudder when moving slowly from a standstill (e.g. parking).

Hi,

I just picked mine up. Black Sports pack, RNS-510 with dynaudio, RVC, Fiscon bluetooth, sunroof and park assist. Love it!

However, i have discovered 3 issues with the car already.
1. The door rattles on the driver-side. Has anyone gotten this fixed?
2. The rear windscreen seems to leak washer fluid whenever i use the front windshield washer fluid
3. My RNS-510 doesn't accept SDHC when the manual says it does.

Hopefully this is all covered under warranty

[cwcarruthers]

Hi,

I just picked mine up. Black Sports pack, RNS-510 with dynaudio, RVC, Fiscon bluetooth, sunroof and park assist. Love it!

However, i have discovered 3 issues with the car already.
1. The door rattles on the driver-side. Has anyone gotten this fixed?
2. The rear windscreen seems to leak washer fluid whenever i use the front windshield washer fluid
3. My RNS-510 doesn't accept SDHC when the manual says it does.

Hopefully this is all covered under warranty

The rattle is very annoying. I would love to know of anyone that has this fixed, and what the issue is. I have mine booked in to get looked at next month - hopefully it can be resolved.

[Corey_R]

1. The door rattles on the driver-side. Has anyone gotten this fixed?
2. The rear windscreen seems to leak washer fluid whenever i use the front windshield washer fluid
3. My RNS-510 doesn't accept SDHC when the manual says it does.

1. A few MK6 owners have mentioned this around the forums. I'm sorry, but I haven't paid attention to whether they've had it fixed.
2. My MKV did that as well. It happened just after the washer fluid container was filled and then was ok after a day or two (of usage of the washer fluid).
3. Just get the dealer to do the flash upgrade of the RNS-510 and it'll be fine

[paolob]

my auntie just picked a mk6 118tsi sports pack a few weeks back and i got the chance to drive it last week. Very nice car! I REALLY like the interior especially the dash! makes the interior of my mk5 look abit dissappointing =\ i didn't quite like how the aircon vents look this time around thou... The suspension and ride is good and when driving, i couldnt even tell i was going faster then what i thought i was going alot of the time! very impressed from a little 1.4l
however i think the launch control on these things is pretty gutless. A tune on one of these things would make it alot more enjoyable imo but trying to encourage my aunty about that is another thing since she 'thinks' its already too fast for her already hahah
I still enjoy my GIAC'd pirelli ALOT better thou =P

[mr gee]

1. The door rattles on the driver-side. Has anyone gotten this fixed?

Mine rattled early in the ownership but it sort of just went away over time (mine's nearly 20,000km). On the Italian VW forum, there was mention of door trim rubbing aganst the B pillar but not sure if this is the case with mine.

2. The rear windscreen seems to leak washer fluid whenever i use the front windshield washer fluid

Happens to every Mk 6. Have to live with it unless someone puts in a valve it wouldn't go away

3. My RNS-510 doesn't accept SDHC when the manual says it does.

Firmware updates to 2660 as on mine allows SDHC. I use a 12 GB SD card on mine.

Hope this helps

[Liquid]

1. The door rattles on the driver-side. Has anyone gotten this fixed?

Mine rattled early in the ownership but it sort of just went away over time (mine's nearly 20,000km). On the Italian VW forum, there was mention of door trim rubbing aganst the B pillar but not sure if this is the case with mine.

2. The rear windscreen seems to leak washer fluid whenever i use the front windshield washer fluid

Happens to every Mk 6. Have to live with it unless someone puts in a valve it wouldn't go away

3. My RNS-510 doesn't accept SDHC when the manual says it does.

Firmware updates to 2660 as on mine allows SDHC. I use a 12 GB SD card on mine.

Hope this helps

Thanks mr_gee, bit annoying to see some washer fluid leak, but its not as annoying as the door rattle for a new car.

re: RNS-510, how do i know what version i'm running? and will the dealer upgrade the firmware?

[mr gee]

on some versions, you press the setup button for more than a minute. it will first display the setup menu but continue pressing and it should then display a supplemental menu that shows version info amongst other things.

Maverick has a website:

http://www.my-gti.com/category/in-car-entertainment/rns-510-in-car-entertainment

alternatively,:

http://vwnavi.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=51

mine looks like this:

[ctan]

Do the GTI's have the same issues?

Are these problems peculiar to the 118TSI's? Does anyone with the MK6 GTI's have the same problems? I am still undecided whether to go for a highly spec 118 TSI or a basic GTI. I seem to be getting the feel that the GTI has less issues.

[RW1]

It goes like this. You're standing, then you press accelerator. it pulls normally for a second, then switches into the second gear. When this happens, there is a painful moment of about 1-1.5 second where there is barely any power, it feels as it is litteraly choking, like there is no fuel supply, (yes, it's because the very low revs), but then it goes smoothly afterwards. This is very painful when joining busy traffic. Very frustrating.

If I press the accelerator hard, either from a stand-still or from when I first notice that it's choking, it just goes wild.

Had this on my new Scirocco 1.4TSi DSG. DSG is always adjusting to your driving but just sometimes it gets beyond self-recovery, Under these conditions th eonly way out is to reset the box and make it re-learn.

Did the 7speed DSG "reset"/basic learning to mine. Drove it straight afterwards in DSG "D" mode from start all the way through the gears to 7th and back down - speeds 0 - 70mph. All the problems above now gone, right foot now feels connected to the wheels. Very smooth in all gear changes and no real lurching anymore or fluffed take-offs. Gears are more sensibly selected by the DSG as well for the driving conditions.

Reset on 7 speed DSG:
With Engine and Gearbox at or near the normal working temperature.
No igniton on, key out of steering lock. Press accelerator full home until the switch is felt at the bottom and hold it with the switch "on" for 10+ seconds. I used 20 seconds to be sure.

Now drive it normally in DSG "D" mode but ensure you drive this sequence. In the first few minutes take it from low speed (20mph) all the way upto 70mph and 7th gear and then back down to a stop. Coming back down can be the next junction a couple of miles down the way so no need to block the highway. Let it creep at 5mph-ish under no throttle condition while in 1st gear for a few feet (20 feet) to learn that. Job done.

C.

[DracZ]

on some versions, you press the setup button for more than a minute. it will first display the setup menu but continue pressing and it should then display a supplemental menu that shows version info amongst other things.

Maverick has a website:

http://www.my-gti.com/category/in-car-entertainment/rns-510-in-car-entertainment

alternatively,:

http://vwnavi.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=51

mine looks like this:

mr gee - Is that pic from your 118TSI? When was it delivered if you don't mind me asking? Trying to figure out what version RNS-510 the latest Golfs are shipping with, cheers.

[Timmy10]

Reset on 7 speed DSG:
With Engine and Gearbox at or near the normal working temperature.
No igniton on, key out of steering lock. Press accelerator full home until the switch is felt at the bottom and hold it with the switch "on" for 10+ seconds. I used 20 seconds to be sure.

Now drive it normally in DSG "D" mode but ensure you drive this sequence. In the first few minutes take it from low speed (20mph) all the way upto 70mph and 7th gear and then back down to a stop. Coming back down can be the next junction a couple of miles down the way so no need to block the highway. Let it creep at 5mph-ish under no throttle condition while in 1st gear for a few feet (20 feet) to learn that. Job done.

C.[/QUOTE]

Has anyone tried this?

Is it something official, cause ive never heard of a dealer say this

[mr gee]

mr gee - Is that pic from your 118TSI? When was it delivered if you don't mind me asking? Trying to figure out what version RNS-510 the latest Golfs are shipping with, cheers.

The pic is off my car but my RNS is not OE delivered but something I picked up off a group buy

[RW1]

Reset on 7 speed DSG:

Has anyone tried this?

Is it something official, cause ive never heard of a dealer say this

Just to add a little more. I found the procedure on here, its documented several times if a search is done but...... I came across a comment from "Logger" that appeared to cast doubt on it. So I decided to conduct a few of tests.

As above the DSG 7 Speed Mechatronic Control Unit is always adjusting to your driving patterns long and short term.

I drive in urban traffic crawl 80% of use of the car in any given week. ie, average journey time is 15 to 20 mins, distance is 6 to 8 miles and average speed is 20mph with a road speed limit at 30mph.

At junctions, the throttle didn't respond on setting off, press, nothing for about 0.25 seconds, reaction was to press more and the engine spun into life, as did the wheels! Gear changes from 1st to 2nd were always a bit lurchy as were some higher ratios if accelerating at mid throttle settings.

So with that in mind I first of all changed my driving habits, ie. instead of casually driving along with very light throttle all the time, I drove more agreessively on the throttle, chose faster routes. Did this for two weeks. Effect: Nothing

Next, drove the set-up sequence above without the throttle/no ignition action. Did it twice two weeks apart and assessed for two weeks each time. Effect: Nothing

Then did the throttle/no ignition for 20 seconds action and immediately drove the set-up sequence I wrote above in the following 10 minutes. Effect: Result!
The engine immediately responded to pressing the throttle when setting off at junctions. It felt connected directly to what I was doing with my right foot. The 1st to 2nd gear change happened smoothly, all other gear changes cannot be detected, even under fairly hard acceleration. Releasing the foot brake, the gearbox immediately enages "creep" (5 - 6mph) mode whereas it used to think for a second before enaging the clutches.

I cannot find anything official on the web WWW about this. If someone has a copy of the VW's ELSA workshop programme dated post-2007 edition (mine only goes to 2003), what does it state about conducting a "Basic Setting" sequence on the 7 speed DSG in the gearbox section of the maintenance manual?

The 6 speed DSG "Basic Settings" is well documented on the Ross-Tech VAGCOM web site and in that case, it is necessary to use the car's diagnostics with something like VAGCOM. I borrowed the drive sequence from there as on here from what I could find, there was only mention of pressing the throttle but no after set-up process of learning for the Mechatronic Control Unit.

This is the 6 speed drive learning sequence documented by Ross-Tech Wiki (VW Golf/Jetta/Bora (1K/5M)) after using VAGCOM to reset values in several parts of the 6 speed DSG:

"Defined Test Drive
Suggested test drive after replacing the mechatronic or successful basic setting:

ATF Temperature 30...100 °C (86...210 °F).
Drive in Tiptronic Mode from stand still up to 6th Gear.
While doing that make sure to drive in Gears 3 or 5 for approx. 5 minutes and also in 4 or 6 for approx. 5 minutes.
The engine speed window for all gears is 1200 - 3500 RPM (for clutch calibration).
Perform one sharp braking followed by a full throttle acceleration (oil return check).
Evaluate creep and starting-off points."

C.

[DracZ]

At junctions, the throttle didn't respond on setting off, press, nothing for about 0.25 seconds, reaction was to press more and the engine spun into life, as did the wheels! Gear changes from 1st to 2nd were always a bit lurchy as were some higher ratios if accelerating at mid throttle settings.

I noticed the exact same issue when test driving the 118TSI, will definitely give your method a go once I take delivery of the car, cheers!