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  • #16
    Originally posted by cme2c View Post
    A really minor thing, but I wonder if anyone else has experienced it. If I take off from a standstill moderately in D, the DSG appears to change from 1 -2 followed very quickly by 2-3 causing a slight but noticeable hesitation almost like a misfire (but it's not). Anyone else experienced this?
    Yes, I use to get caught out with an occasional hesitation on launch but it disappeared once I got my APR tune.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by coastie View Post
      Have you tried resetting the DSG? With the vehicle stopped and engine turned off press the accelerator completely to the floor including the lower stage where you feel the click and hold it for about 10-15 seconds. this will reset the DSG and it will relearn.
      Aaaaah! You might be onto something. This behavior happened after being on the freeway for over an hour, then hitting traffic. I wonder if the DSG has "relearnt" now that my wife has been driving it around the suburbs for the past few days. She always complained that the auto in her Peugeot 307 was rough for a while after I had driven the car, so it may be the learning behaviour. No such problem with the Honda Accord euro she had between the Peugeot and the Golf. I'll stick with my manual GTi (note small i).
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      1980 Bedford van
      2015 Hyundai i30 SR

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      • #18
        Originally posted by logger View Post
        Yes, I use to get caught out with an occasional hesitation on launch but it disappeared once I got my APR tune.
        Look, logger, this is my wife's car and I have enough trouble keeping up with it now! It's amazing how anaemic my 206GTi feels under 3000 revs when you've had 240Nm at 1500 for a few days.
        2009 118 TSI
        1980 Bedford van
        2015 Hyundai i30 SR

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        • #19
          YeaH...me experiencing the same with the DSG. VW said its normal for the 7speed DSG to save fuel.

          Learning to live with it...I found that Gas, let go little and more Gas makes it smoother.

          Some members found APR resolve this hesitation.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by cme2c View Post
            A really minor thing, but I wonder if anyone else has experienced it. If I take off from a standstill moderately in D, the DSG appears to change from 1 -2 followed very quickly by 2-3 causing a slight but noticeable hesitation almost like a misfire (but it's not). Anyone else experienced this?
            Mine does that as well
            not sure why.
            does yours have a slight miss when starting and idling when its cold?
            heard there's a engine management reprogram for that
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            • #21
              Originally posted by mr gee View Post
              Mine does that as well
              not sure why.
              does yours have a slight miss when starting and idling when its cold?
              heard there's a engine management reprogram for that
              No, it's fine, but thanks. All information gratefully accepted.
              2009 118 TSI
              1980 Bedford van
              2015 Hyundai i30 SR

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              • #22
                Originally posted by coastie View Post
                Have you tried resetting the DSG? With the vehicle stopped and engine turned off press the accelerator completely to the floor including the lower stage where you feel the click and hold it for about 10-15 seconds. this will reset the DSG and it will relearn.
                Does that mean it returns to factory settings? What sort of data does the DSG "learn"?
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                • #23
                  Coastie appears to be correct. After my wife has been driving round the suburbs for a week, the DSG behaves much better. Also, now it has over 1000km on the clock, I found out the traction control works.
                  2009 118 TSI
                  1980 Bedford van
                  2015 Hyundai i30 SR

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                  • #24
                    I had a similar issue with my DSG in 118TSI after driving for less than a month. The gear seems to be disengaged (or kicked automatically to Neutral) and all it was doing was reving up the engine in the middle of the road. I was really scared as I was trying to cross the intersection. It happened to me again twice later just after few mins when I start the journey. Took it to VW dealer and they said they have not yet heard any similar issues. Later they spoke with VW AU office and did a software reset on DSG. I later found that there were similar issues reported for old generation DSG boxes in US/CA and they were trying to write a petetion to the Govt authorities.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by geojack555 View Post
                      I had a similar issue with my DSG in 118TSI after driving for less than a month. The gear seems to be disengaged (or kicked automatically to Neutral) and all it was doing was reving up the engine in the middle of the road. I was really scared as I was trying to cross the intersection. It happened to me again twice later just after few mins when I start the journey. Took it to VW dealer and they said they have not yet heard any similar issues. Later they spoke with VW AU office and did a software reset on DSG. I later found that there were similar issues reported for old generation DSG boxes in US/CA and they were trying to write a petetion to the Govt authorities.
                      The USA problem is known as the "flash of death" and seems to apply to 6 speed DSGs. I have not been able to find reports of it happening in Australia, despite looking for them. The 118TSI is my wife's car and we had trouble with a previous car (not a VW) which would go onto 3 cylinders for no apparent reason. Almost as scary as what happened to you. Since then I research for reports of trouble before buying a car.
                      2009 118 TSI
                      1980 Bedford van
                      2015 Hyundai i30 SR

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                      • #27
                        Originally posted by MIRSAD View Post
                        DSG problems in USA reports...
                        Which of course pertain to the DSG6 -remember the DSG7 is not available there. If you happen to have a DSG7 in your Mk6 I would not draw too much correlation. They are quite different. Wet Clutch vs Dry Clutch, Different Mechatronic unit, different controller, 3 gear spools vs 2. etc etc.
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                        • #28
                          logger

                          I dig up this report before I purchased my MK6 GTI, show that report to dealer but he told me that it is MK5 GTI problem ... I thought that DSG from MK5 is used in MK6 GTI or ...
                          (I am really not technical person)
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                          • #29
                            No - I think you are quite correct, it is used in the Mk6 GTI which has the DSG6. Just that is not in the Mk6 TSI sold here in Australia. So while it might be relevant to your config, it is not to those of us with the Twincharger which has the DSG7.
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                            • #30
                              Actually
                              I traded my 118TSI with DSG7 (because with problems with that squeak - that recorded on Youtube, water pump replaced, and also other, not frequent noise, (only 20 times) but disturbing - like exhaust system is violently shaking)

                              Because of that,before purchase I did research about MK6 GTI - only negative thing that I dig up from Europe was from one person in UK ("what car" website)
                              and that report from USA - but nothing reported about that in other countries.

                              That problem in USA is looking serious and I couldn't find any reports about that from Europe or Australia
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