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  • #91
    Originally posted by Guy_H View Post
    I have never bothered to look up the standard parts as when we rebuild, we name the CR & buy aftermarket parts to suit.

    My guess would be different pistons!
    yeah pistons would be the most obvious conclusion for a big ratio difference, but you can get small steps with a different head gasket and/or valving can't you? What is the difference? Significant?

    Just doesn't make sense with what I've read... I guess there's a bloke called werner or gunter somewhere in Germany who knows....

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    • #92
      Originally posted by kryten2001 View Post
      The combination of KW V3s and that excellent rubber is a killer combination. Your eyeballs will pop out the side of your head before your car will let go. Unless your car literally lives on the track, the upgrade to R specs is pointless - it's all in the suspension setup.
      Sorry for me being an ignoramous - but what is a KW V3?
      Also, what tyres are you running/think is 'excellent rubber' ?

      Cheers.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by coreying View Post
        Sorry for me being an ignoramous - but what is a KW V3?
        Also, what tyres are you running/think is 'excellent rubber' ?

        Cheers.
        KW Coilovers, variant 3. Suspension.

        http://www.kw-suspension.co.uk/variant-3.htm

        Rubber is Pirelli P Zeros.

        http://www.jaxquickfit.com.au/other-...i-new-zero.htm

        Not as good traction as say, an advan R spec, but with suspension that's set up correctly it's all academic on the road. Like I said I've pushed them about as far as I can personally handle before I puke. The problem with the standard suspension is that it doesn't let the tyre do it's work properly - so on OEM/poor suspension you'll never realise just how good these tyres (and most performance tyres, for that matter) are.

        edit: I'm sure there are plenty of other good combinations out there, as there's quite a few very good coilover manufacturers and tyre manufacturers....
        Last edited by kryten2001; 20-01-2010, 06:49 PM.

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        • #94
          Originally posted by Guy_H View Post
          My guess would be different pistons!
          Not that I'm interested... well.. much.. but what options are available for the Mk5 in the piston/conrod/bearings department?

          Is it as simple as good forged pistons, or is there a titanium option too?... less resistance = faster revving and a quicker/steeper power curve for any given amount of time......

          That's exactly what they do in the m/cycle world anyway... I'm presuming this translates to high performance/high revving turbo car engines too...

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          • #95
            Thanks kryten2001

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            • #96
              Originally posted by kryten2001 View Post
              yeah pistons would be the most obvious conclusion for a big ratio difference, but you can get small steps with a different head gasket and/or valving can't you? What is the difference? Significant?

              Just doesn't make sense with what I've read... I guess there's a bloke called werner or gunter somewhere in Germany who knows....
              Early GTI's (AXX) 10.5:1
              Later BWA's 10.3:1
              BYD Pirelli - cant remember but somewhere in between here
              BHZ S3 9.5:1

              on an FSI motor a little compression change goes a long way
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              • #97
                Originally posted by elisiX View Post
                The yellow isn't my problem, the tyre tread is.

                Exterior color is great IMO.
                just get the seats retrimmed, only cost $1-2k
                2007 Audi RS4 with: APR ECU Upgrade; JHM Quick Shifter; Milltek Catback and Downpipes; KW V3 Coilovers; Argon Creative Carbon Fibre Splitters

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by gareth_oau View Post
                  just get the seats retrimmed, only cost $1-2k
                  Or get reccaros. Even better.

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                  • #99
                    UPDATED VIDEO!!! I added me blasting though first gear to 6th gear and I go over 180mph on this one. :) MtO2dh8BCPA RwjKPGtMqWs Same turbo, just faster. :biggrin:


                    apr stage 4 teaser
                    .: MK2 Golf GTI [FWD R32 Project]:.

                    MK4 R32 parts for sale - click here

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                    • this thread got hijacked a few pages ago hahah
                      anyway my opinion is to go with the pirelli because of the stated reasons:
                      - colour-coded
                      - body-kit makes it look meaner
                      - different wheels
                      - k04 (especially if youre into modding!)
                      - etc...
                      BUT! if i were to do it again, id choose the golf r32 or r36 and put a crazy exhaust on it (capristo or kreissig). Im two ways between the new r thou. On one hand the awd, LED lights, better interior is an improvement i really like, but to me it still looks like a standard mk6 from the front and they say the mk6 is too refined so wont give the rawness of the mk5.
                      but yeah i also couldnt afford any of these other options either hahah i will most likely keep this car for awhilleee and my next car would probably be an m3 once i hit it big then r8 yo
                      Last edited by paolob; 20-01-2010, 08:02 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by tinto View Post
                        HOLY CRAP!

                        The APR Stage III GTI has ~300KW and 515NM - so that must have way more.
                        300kph+ in a FWD GTI must be hilarious

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                        • Originally posted by tinto View Post
                          Oh sweet mother....

                          Check engine light, check engine light!......

                          OK Guy come on, what's this all about.

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                          • The 'Check engine light' is only a temporary thing which they say will be fixed in the final product.

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                            • I'll let you know when I'm over there driving it next month
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                              • Heh, lucky you!

                                Also, I take it from that video that APR have a DSG flash or something coming soon.

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