Mk6 GTI or Mk5 GTI Pirelli

[Lukey13]

...the mk6 gti uses a revised version of the 2.0 litre turbo(ED88 or whatever that has been deemed unsuitable by VAG for high RPM or high HP applications, it is more efficient and economical in power production but nothing compared to its older brother for making peak power, hence the reason it is not used in the mk 6 golf R. with just a flash the Pirelli is making 230kw approx 300hp and 400nm Tq, at the motor. further an Carbonio intake, Apr fuel pump and Turbo back exhaust will give you 350hp (250+kw) at the motor.
I agree the mk 6 looks great, but if you want roll on power that eats modded evo 9s Go for the Pirelli. nothing comes close for the money.
you can hit the dealer for no costs or duty's out the door i would suggest around 48.000 drive away.

Does that mean that the Mk6 GTI can't be flashed the same way the Mk5 can (to around 180kw?)?

230kw in a Pirelli sure would be an addictive surge of power...
I wish the Audi S3 Quattro wasn't such a hike in price from the VW, as that would be almost unstoppable running that power through AWD.

[tinto]

The new 2.0TSI engine has been out in the MK5 in other parts of the world for a while.
I believe it is already here in the 2.0 litre skodas.

and the tuning potential is roughly the same.

[Edra]

4wd is great especially in less than optimal conditions, off the line etc but it adds quite a bit more weight to the car and resistance to drivetrain and engine, the new Haldex system will likely have some cool tricks up its sleeve's on the mk 6 R with its diff split. But on the mk5 R32 power at the wheels compared to the engine was a greater percentage loss than the mk 5 GTI.
so roll on power from 60 kmh in a chipped 240kw Pirelli vs 240 kw chipped Golf R would be interesting to compare.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxd2IW_i-Ew&feature=related

[gregozedobe]

so roll on power from 60 kmh in a chipped 240kw Pirelli vs 240 kw chipped Golf R would be interesting to compare.

If it's dry and good traction I'd be putting my money on the Pirelli (lighter, less drivetrain losses), but in the wet the Golf R would get an initial advantage (AWD = less wheelspin).

[triode12]

Unless you are going to take you car on the track, all this power is academic in anyway.

The important thing is that the car is fun to drive on a daily basis and the MkV GTI and Pirelli definitely fit the bill. I can't comment on the MkVI so try before you buy.

There are more powerful cars out there that are better track vehicles but if you aren't going to take the car onto a track, get the one that puts a smile on your face everytime you drive it and not one that has the higher "numbers".... because there will always be car out there with better specs. A car that is fun to drive on a daily basis at what ever price is not easy to come by/find.

[Lukey13]

Can anybody comment on what an Audi S3 drives like?

Price aside, it's certainly a good looking car with some decent specs...

[gregozedobe]

Can anybody comment on what an Audi S3 drives like?

Price aside, it's certainly a good looking car with some decent specs...

You may get more responses if you ask that question on the Audi sub-forum

[trueman]

Dilemna gti mk6 vs pirelli 5

Hi all
I am waiting for Mk6 GTI .... may take a while..
There is an opportunity to purchase new MK5 gti pirelli for $5-8K less from same dealer. No ACC obviously but has SATNAV
Are these pirellis exceptionally good or just an end of the line publicity stunt

Thanks

[elisiX]

I believe there is a lengthy thread discussing exactly this but I might be wrong. No the Pirelli is certainly not a publicity stunt - its got a different engine/turbo all together. In fact its the same setup as the S3 give or take from what i've read - ie a bigger K04 turbo. IMO if you can live with the yellow/tyre tread interior of the MKV Pirelli, its going to be a great buy with the discount you suggest. There's quite a few nice reads on the Pirelli on mkv.com also if you want to research further.

[elisiX]

and here it is.. http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...ht=MK6+Pirelli

[triode12]

If it is any colour apart from Yellow, I'd take the Pirelli over the MKVI GTI. Even if it didn't come with bixenons, a sunroof and all those electronic aids of the MKVI.

My opinion is biased of course. I currently own a Pirelli and have driven the MKVI at the VW trackday event - I'd rather be in a MkV over a MkVI anyday.

In a year or two, the MKVI GTI will be as common as muck while the Pirelli will still be unique - there are only 400 Pirellis in the country.

[team_v]

I'd go the pirelli.

Limited numbers means they should hold their value a lot better.
The extra bits included (k04 turbo, coded valences, interior etc) make it a nice looking vehicle.

And it is already performance ready.

[elisiX]

I don't know about that triode12. The MKV is just as much "as common as muck" as the MKVI will ever be. And in my opinion, unfortunately the Pirelli may get lumped in with the regular MKV GTI just like the OP assumed. "end of the line publicity stunt". For enthusiasts, they will know better, but the general public will not I don't think. The Pirelli represents very good value for money in the current equation when comparing the MKVI GTI and Pirelli, but it comes at some sacrifice to taste (seats) and features (new bits on the MKVI). For outright performance you cant argue with the Pirelli's advantage and its own additions over the MKVI GTI such as turbo etc.

[tinto]

Worth noting that the high performance engine in a Pirelli is going to live on in the mk6 Golf R.
It is a different engine to that in the standard mk6 GTI.
Probably an economical reason, but still means there will be further development on the engine in a flagship model.

<-- Pirelli owner. I love it.

[GoLfMan]

go the Pirelli I recon!!

Its a Audi S3 without AWD plus you chip it and it goes to like 220kw's!!!!

I'd have it over a mk6 any day of the week