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  • #16
    I drive with all my lights on all the time there are just too many boneheads on the roads here.

    I use the philosophy that if i give other road users the best possible opportunity to see me coming then they are less likely to either hold me up or pull out in front of me. I have proven this in real life situations, one day i thought that there was an unusually large number of said boneheads on the road as i got pulled out in front of and people were not pulling left on the freeway when i came up behind them, then i realised that the car had been in the garage where they turned the lights off, as soon as i put them back it on it was business as usual.

    Lights are a dual purpose device, they are used to see and also to be seen.

    On the golf its very handy as i just leave the light switch on, with the fog lights on, and the auto off turns them off anyway.
    currrently... MY10 GTI | DSG | Candy White | Sunroof | 18's | BT | MDI
    previously... MY08 GT TDI | DSG | Reflex Silver | Sunroof

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Lima View Post
      [pet hate rant mode]

      I'd say a fair percentage of drivers on Australian roads have NFI when they should put their lights on. So unless we get mandatory DRL legislation I wish all cars came with an Auto lights function.

      That way, the boneheads who are unable to make a simple judgment call as to when lights should be used won't have to bother.

      Still, makes you wonder doesn't it, if people can't work out when their lights should be on, what else are these goons incapable of while on the roads?

      [/pet hate rant mode]
      not sure how i'm meant to take this comment.... am i a bonehead coz i use the auto function or a goon???
      1974 1300 Beetle, 1997 Golf GL, 2003 New Beetle Cabrio, 2014 Audi A4 quattro

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      • #18
        Originally posted by blutopless2 View Post
        not sure how i'm meant to take this comment.... am i a bonehead coz i use the auto function or a goon???
        He's talking about people who don't use their lights at all, or at least not until they realise they can't see the speedo any more. At least that's how I read it. I don't think he's having a go at those of us who us Auto - the auto function on my Passat is quite conservative - it turns the lights on pretty early, which is good in my view.

        Having said that, I don't know you - maybe you are a goon AND a bonehead!

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Swallowtail View Post
          He's talking about people who don't use their lights at all, or at least not until they realise they can't see the speedo any more. At least that's how I read it. I don't think he's having a go at those of us who us Auto - the auto function on my Passat is quite conservative - it turns the lights on pretty early, which is good in my view.

          Having said that, I don't know you - maybe you are a goon AND a bonehead!
          Thats how i read it too, there is no such thing as too early, IMO if the light is not 100% then lights should go on.
          currrently... MY10 GTI | DSG | Candy White | Sunroof | 18's | BT | MDI
          previously... MY08 GT TDI | DSG | Reflex Silver | Sunroof

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          • #20
            Originally posted by steve_tdi View Post
            I drive with all my lights on all the time....
            So do all other MK6 drivers unless they have implicitly overridden the system and I will explain why.

            Bit of confusion creeping in here I think. PLS correct me if I am wrong. Might not be the case with other models but assuming I have read the manual correctly - with the MK6 there are two systems at play. There is the above mentioned Auto headlight system that will turn your headlights on when it gets dark. This sytem is there for convenience. There is also a second system that will activate Daylight Running Lights or whatever VW calls them whenever the car is being driven. This sytem is there for Safety. Have not got the manual in front of me so I cant recall if it is IGN activated but I think so. In any case the point is it is not really necessary to turn your headlight switch on for daylight driving as they will be on anyway regardless of switch position. Unless of course you over ride the system by using the combination of indicator lever strokes, which is also clearly explained in the manual. This Daylight visibilty/safety system is not active when the IGN is off so will not flatten the battery like the Auto light system will.
            Just found this UK discussion on the Daylight Running LIghts
            Last edited by logger; 26-08-2009, 03:48 PM. Reason: correct terminology.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Swallowtail View Post
              He's talking about people who don't use their lights at all, or at least not until they realise they can't see the speedo any more. At least that's how I read it. I don't think he's having a go at those of us who us Auto - the auto function on my Passat is quite conservative - it turns the lights on pretty early, which is good in my view.

              Having said that, I don't know you - maybe you are a goon AND a bonehead!

              its ok.. my dislexia kicking in early.... wasn't offended in any case but my bad for misreading it.
              and yes you are probably right.. i might be a goon AND and a bonehead... people mostly call me other names...
              1974 1300 Beetle, 1997 Golf GL, 2003 New Beetle Cabrio, 2014 Audi A4 quattro

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              • #22
                Originally posted by steve_tdi View Post
                Thats how i read it too, there is no such thing as too early, IMO if the light is not 100% then lights should go on.
                Zing!

                When I had the Mk4 GTI, which was black, I ran the low beam headlights at all times. Better to make yourself as visible as you can to the goons and boneheads we share the roads with, haha.

                blutopless2, IMO, having the lights on Auto is good.

                Oh, in reference to logger's comment, the S3 has LED DRLs which are kind of cool!
                Last edited by Lima; 26-08-2009, 05:14 PM.


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                • #23
                  Originally posted by logger View Post
                  So do all other MK6 drivers unless they have implicitly overridden the system and I will explain why.

                  Bit of confusion creeping in here I think. PLS correct me if I am wrong. Might not be the case with other models but assuming I have read the manual correctly - with the MK6 there are two systems at play. There is the above mentioned Auto headlight system that will turn your headlights on when it gets dark. This sytem is there for convenience. There is also a second system that will activate Daylight Running Lights or whatever VW calls them whenever the car is being driven. This sytem is there for Safety. Have not got the manual in front of me so I cant recall if it is IGN activated but I think so. In any case the point is it is not really necessary to turn your headlight switch on for daylight driving as they will be on anyway regardless of switch position. Unless of course you over ride the system by using the combination of indicator lever strokes, which is also clearly explained in the manual. This Daylight visibilty/safety system is not active when the IGN is off so will not flatten the battery like the Auto light system will.
                  Just found this UK discussion on the Daylight Running LIghts

                  Now that you mention it, i have noticed a lot of mk6's with their lights on.
                  currrently... MY10 GTI | DSG | Candy White | Sunroof | 18's | BT | MDI
                  previously... MY08 GT TDI | DSG | Reflex Silver | Sunroof

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                  • #24
                    Daytime driving lights

                    Originally posted by steve_tdi View Post
                    Now that you mention it, i have noticed a lot of mk6's with their lights on.
                    thats something totally different those lights are daytime driving lights they dont go of unless you turn them off via MFD or the manual way with the indicator

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