Sports Pack

[thamwk]

As far as I am aware, ACC utilises an electro-mechanical dampering system (as opposed to magnetic ride) and on the sports mode prevents the car from rolling too much, giving the perception of more direct steering. I really don't think they have steering profiles per-say.

[logger]

I just reviewed my research and I should have said steering maps not profiles.

"Aside from the muscular and efficient new TSI engines, arguably the most important mechanical change inside the new Golf VI is the use of adaptive dampers. VW calls the system Adaptive Chassis Control but label it, confusingly, DCC. The system incorporates alternate steering maps for the Golf's new electromechanical steering but most of the trickery is in the electronically-controlled dampers.

DCC-equipped Golf models ride 10mm lower than the conventional cars and feature a Monroe-sourced damper system that uses an Ohlins-supplied magnetic valve block to automatically control pitch and roll when cornering, accelerating and braking. To do so the system interrogates a range of sensors across the car including steering, engine, DSG transmission, braking and other systems, including stability control et al.

Three settings are offered -- Normal, the default setting; Comfort and Sport -- and changed via a simple console mounted switch. The last setting used is 'saved' and automatically reactivated at start.

In Sport mode, the Golf's steering is also firmed up."

and from another source..

"The memory has capacity for up to 16 differnt maps. In the Golf 2004, for example 8 of the total available maps are used. ...... Maps are activate in the factory depending on requirements....... However, Maps can be activated in a service center using VAS 5051" or VAG-COM no doubt.

Oh and J-Tim, I realise you cannot select ride with the Sports Pack. Just wondering if Sports Pack has a different steering map assigned in the same way as the ACC option does.

[thamwk]

nice! now where did you get this nugget of information?

[logger]

nice! now where did you get this nugget of information?

First part I just googled and found at Carpoint. By a motoring journo I guess, so not definitive. Second part is from the VW electro-mechanical power steering self study guide, which has other gems in it like how
- the system alleviates side force driving in a crosswind.
- operates without the engine running when speed > 15kph. Try it rolling down a slope - it works.

[mr gee]

This are the codes I draged out from my car, a 118 TSI with sports pack. Compare if you like the codes and see if it will make a difference.

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
37-Navigation -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (CAV) Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 03C 906 027 G HW: 03C 906 027 F
Component: MED17.5.5 G 3428
Revision: L1H08--- Serial number:
Coding: 0000077
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200

No fault code found.
Readiness: 0000 0000

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: Redir Fail!
Part No SW: 0AM 300 046 C HW: 0AM 927 769 D
Component: GSG DSG AG7 402 1014
Revision: 40024 Serial number: 00000812180965
Coding: 0000020
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (-----) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AE HW: 1K0 907 379 AE
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H35 0106
Revision: 00H35001
Coding: 163B600D21280003680C06E7841D0080B500
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 AJ HW: 5K0 907 044 AJ
Component: Climatronic 130 0305
Revision: 00002001
Coding: 0000000000
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001
ROD: EV_Climatronic_VW36.rod

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 HW: 1K0 937 086
Component: BCM PQ35 M 020 0358
Revision: 00020000
Coding: 40180A3A902518C044080080140081E441510088436D896064 8000000000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200

Part No: 1K2 955 119 E
Component: Wischer 27110 21 0501
Coding: 009795

Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH
Component: RLS 111208 05 54 0402
Coding: 0330AD

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 959 655 HW: 5K0 959 655
Component: AirbagVW10 022 0507
Serial number: 003C2D06W5L8
Coding: 00003134
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01003
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360_VW36.rod

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD HW: 1K0 953 549 CD
Component: J0527 055 0111
Coding: 0001532
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200

Part No: 3C8 959 537 B
Component: E221__MFL-TAP H4ÿ 0021
Coding: 00000226
Shop #: WSC 00000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 920 870 B HW: 5K0 920 870 B
Component: KOMBI H21 0029
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 170B00
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04020
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 S HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H16 0210
Revision: H16 Serial number: 3400K08C0302F0
Coding: ED807F06400202000003
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 920 870 B HW: 5K0 920 870 B
Component: IMMO H21 0029
Serial number:
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03002
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW36.rod

No fault code found.

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Address 37: Navigation (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 C HW: 1T0 035 680 B
Component: RNS-MID H02 2660
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7H8151085
Coding: 04000400040000A200
Shop #: WSC 01316 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 AM HW: 1K0 959 701 AM
Component: Tuer-SG 008 2016
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x.lbl
Part No: 1K0 909 144 E
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 69 2501
Revision: 00H15000
Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 AM HW: 1K0 959 702 AM
Component: Tuer-SG 008 2016
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J0506) Labels: 1T0-035-680.lbl
Part No SW: 1T0 035 680 C HW: 1T0 035 680 B
Component: RNS-MID H02 2660
Revision: AB001001 Serial number: VWZ6Z7H8151085
Coding: 04000400040000A200
Shop #: WSC 01316 785 00200
ASAM Dataset: ------------------------- ------

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 AL HW: 1K0 959 703 AL
Component: Tuer-SG 007 2009
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 AL HW: 1K0 959 704 AL
Component: Tuer-SG 007 2009
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552

[logger]

Thanks for that mr gee. Thats Gold. Doubly confirms my suspicion. Same part no for both the ABS units and ABS controllers on both car configurations. That only leaves the TPMS switch being fitted and the ABS unit coding as being different. While it is tempting to simply place your coding into my ABS controller, I suspect the 6 differences between the two codings tag more than just the TPMS being active.
Coding: 163B600D21280003680C06E7841D0080B500
Coding: 163B600D212A00FC681106E884220080B100

Different tyre sizes for starters. But sure leaves me with something to ponder and work with. Will report back I make any progress. Thanks.

[HFTDI]

Just wondering what other suspension modifications are included in Sports Pack, besides lowering coils ? Thicker swaybars maybe ?

Sports pack is really worth the 2K. The seats are in my opinion the best in the business. One other thing is the option of the adaptive chassis control is only 1k extra instead of a 1.5k stand alone option when ordered with the sports pack. Go on, spend the extra, it will only hurt once and you'll never regret it.

[nicandlance]

Lowered - yes or no?

Has anyone found out for sure whether the Mark 6 tsi with sports pack is lowered or not, and if so by how much?

When I looked at one at the dealership (next to a model that didn't have it), it looked to me as if it was......
Eyes playing tricks?

[JasonP]

A Sports Pack Mark 6 is definitely lower, than one with the standard suspension.

Both of mine are lower than the standard car.

[nicandlance]

Good! I thought so! Any pics of yrs?

[cameronp]

Sports pack: just for looks or actually better handling?

Hi all. Sorry if this has been asked before - I did a search and couldn't see anything relevant.

I ordered my 118TSI with the sport pack without having the chance to drive a car with it, because it seemed like pretty good value - the bigger wheels and fog lights definitely look better, plus there's vague promise of better handling and better seats too. I'm curious as to whether anyone who's driven both the normal and sports pack Golf could comment on the difference between them, e.g. whether you really get any better grip and less roll when cornering?

Are the sports seats significantly better than the standard Comfortline seats? The heavily-bolstered Recaro seats in the Focus XR5 were absolutely brilliant, so I'm hoping that the sports pack will be a step in that general direction.

[Stoney!]

Certainly better handling, however ride quality is severely compromised over lush riding non sports pack versions, I'm still kicking myself for not getting adaptive chassis control...

If you love well bolstered seats, then you will love these seats, everyone who gets in my cars comment how good the seats are the second their pad touches them, i recent review said the seats (and later stated interior also) put more expensive cars to shame.

Stoney!

[Corey_R]

Stoney, is the ride quality worse than a standard GTI? Or is it just changing the car to be similar to the GTI in ride quality?

[JIMMYP]

I picked up my MY2010 Golf 118 TSI on Friday, complete with the Sports Pack.

During test drives at the dealer, I took both the sports pack (with ACC) and the non-sports pack for a spin. Definitely better handling, less "spongey" feel and more responsive on the sports pack equipped model. ACC (which I got on my Golf 118 TSI) is awesome. You can really feel the difference in ride and handling when you change.

My tip to anyone would be to get the Sports Pack with ACC. Seats are also really comfy, and if you get them in leather in particular (personal opinion/preference), the quality/luxury ambience of the Sportsline TSI 118 is great! Also loving the Optical Parking System and the RVC. Dynaudio also rocks. Love my new machine!

[Corey_R]

Sounds like an awesome ride that you have there JIMMYP