MK6 Wheel / Rim / Tyre Thread

[Corey_R]

Is that enough to make them cheaper than purchasing from Tirerack the Goodyear's anyway?

[DionM]

Is that enough to make them cheaper than purchasing from Tirerack the Goodyear's anyway?

Yes. Shipping is not cheap and over the $1k mark you have to factor in 10% GST.

The Eagle F1 Asyms are $400ea in 225/40, so its $1200 for the buy 3 get 1 free deal.

Price is not the only factor, but when a set is 25% cheaper than the others it makes it a bit harder.

[TDI DSG]

Okay I've got a MkV Jetta (2.0T DSG) but seems this is "the" tyre thread.

My RE050As (225/40 R18s) are pretty much shagged after 13000kms so looking at options.

Nitto NT-05 gets good mentions but are they available in Oz? I rang a couple of tyre dealers in BNE but they didn't stock Nitto.

Next choice I guess is the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asyms ?

I'm after outright performance - tired of not having any traction on launches and cornering.

Not too concerned with wear rates - don't do many kms. Not too concerned with wet performance - I'll take the other car if its raining.

If your not concerned with wear rates, go and find your local motorsport tyre dealer and buy some road legal race tyres. They will be the type of tyres used for club car racing and targa tas type events.
These will grip far better than any of the high performance road tyres being mentioned and most likely be a fair bit cheaper too.
You will most likely get 10K out of them - the vast majority of drivers would find that unacceptable, but you sound like you may not given the increased grip on offer.

[Corey_R]

Yes. Shipping is not cheap and over the $1k mark you have to factor in 10% GST.

The Eagle F1 Asyms are $400ea in 225/40, so its $1200 for the buy 3 get 1 free deal.

Price is not the only factor, but when a set is 25% cheaper than the others it makes it a bit harder.

Aaah, so it's cheaper to purchase from Tirerack. Ta

[AdamD]

Yes. Shipping is not cheap and over the $1k mark you have to factor in 10% GST.

The Eagle F1 Asyms are $400ea in 225/40, so its $1200 for the buy 3 get 1 free deal.

Price is not the only factor, but when a set is 25% cheaper than the others it makes it a bit harder.

When I bought my Eagle F1 Asymmetrics from Tirerack it cost me under $1200 all up, including shipping, fitting and alignment. The Australian dollar is now stronger than it was too.

I wouldn't want to dissuade you from getting the Goodyear - they're a great tyre and I'm happy I purchased mine - but I'm not sure they'll give you the outright performance that'd suit you (given your stated criteria and the useful life of your existing boots).

[DionM]

If your not concerned with wear rates, go and find your local motorsport tyre dealer and buy some road legal race tyres. They will be the type of tyres used for club car racing and targa tas type events.
These will grip far better than any of the high performance road tyres being mentioned and most likely be a fair bit cheaper too.
You will most likely get 10K out of them - the vast majority of drivers would find that unacceptable, but you sound like you may not given the increased grip on offer.

Thanks, I might investigate that option.

Aaah, so it's cheaper to purchase from Tirerack. Ta

Just to clarify: 225/40R18 92Y $193.00 (ea.) = $772 USD.
From their email: Shipping cost for 4 of these is $343.24 USD
Total is $1115. Plus 10% GST takes it to around $1200.
So without the GY buy 3 get 1 "deal" yes it is much cheaper to buy from tirerack. But with the deal its about the same.

When I bought my Eagle F1 Asymmetrics from Tirerack it cost me under $1200 all up, including shipping, fitting and alignment. The Australian dollar is now stronger than it was too.

I wouldn't want to dissuade you from getting the Goodyear - they're a great tyre and I'm happy I purchased mine - but I'm not sure they'll give you the outright performance that'd suit you (given your stated criteria and the useful life of your existing boots).

See above. What did you pay for shipping?

Fair comment about the GY. They do seem to rate well in reviews? Those Michelins don't come in the right size for the Jetta ... 235/40 ... its a little oversize.

[AdamD]

Total is $1115. Plus 10% GST takes it to around $1200.

You only pay duties and GST if the value of the goods is over $1000. So $1115 is it (plus fitting and balancing locally). I paid USD300 for shipping.

Fair comment about the GY. They do seem to rate well in reviews? Those Michelins don't come in the right size for the Jetta ... 235/40 ... its a little oversize.

I thought they did a 225/40 in the cup?

[DionM]

You only pay duties and GST if the value of the goods is over $1000. So $1115 is it (plus fitting and balancing locally). I paid USD300 for shipping.

Goods + shipping drives the tax rate ... When buying over the internet
Not sure what your point is here? I agree tirerack is cheaper? But in the case of a 25% off sale, it works out about the same.

I thought they did a 225/40 in the cup?

Not on the tirerack site?

[Corey_R]

Goods + shipping drives the tax rate ... When buying over the internet
Not sure what your point is here? I agree tirerack is cheaper? But in the case of a 25% off sale, it works out about the same.

Not quite. As per your link:

Duty is determined on the Customs value of the goods. The Customs value of the goods is usually the amount you paid for your goods, converted to Australian currency. The exchange rate that is used is the rate applied on the day the goods were posted or exported.

That means that if the value of the items is below $1000 you do not pay GST.

HOWEVER, if the value of the items is above $1000, then yes, you pay GST on the items + the shipping + customs fees.
Therefore, AdamD's assessment is correct.

[DionM]

Okay, my mistake. I missed the subtle point:

Duty, GST and other taxes are calculated and payable when you make an import declaration for goods that have a value above A$1000 or if you import alcohol and/or tobacco products.

I just read this bit:

GST is paid on the Value of the Taxable Importation (VoTI).

No need for bolding.

Still doesn't make it that much cheaper than buying locally when the sale is on.

[Corey_R]

No problems DionM. Yeah, it's not much cheaper than when they're on sale in Australia. Shipping to Australia has gotten more expensive since last time I looked (as AdamD said, he only paid $300 for shipping), and the F1's have gotten cheaper to purchase in Australia (cause they were closer to $500 each when I last checked). Low US$ values and high AU$ values will do that I guess

[brad]

Tempe Tyres sell Nitto

[Diesel_vert]

Okay I've got a MkV Jetta (2.0T DSG) but seems this is "the" tyre thread.

My RE050As (225/40 R18s) are pretty much shagged after 13000kms so looking at options.

Nitto NT-05 gets good mentions but are they available in Oz? I rang a couple of tyre dealers in BNE but they didn't stock Nitto.

Next choice I guess is the Goodyear Eagle F1 Asyms ?

I'm after outright performance - tired of not having any traction on launches and cornering.

Not too concerned with wear rates - don't do many kms. Not too concerned with wet performance - I'll take the other car if its raining.

Firstly, you have road tyres which we are all familiar with.

Bridgestone Potenza S001
Continental Sport Contact 5
Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT
Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2
Michelin Pilot Super Sport
Pirelli P Zero


Secondly, these tyres sacrifice some road tyre characteristics for more dry performance and can handle the odd track day or two, but aren't really true track tyres (see next category). More like a road tyre that's able to cope with the track.

Bridgestone Potenza RE-11
Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec
Hankook Ventus RS-3 (Z222)
Kumho Ecsta XS (KU36)
Nitto NT05
Yokohama Advan Neova AD08


Lastly, these are track tyres that can legally be used on the road if necessary. Expensive, very short lifespan, some come with different compounds, most need temperatures from track running to reach their true performance. More like a track tyre that's able to cope with the road.

Bridgestone Potenza RE-11S / RE55S
Dunlop Direzza DZ03G
Hankook Ventus TD (Z221)
Kumho Ecsta V70A
Michelin Pilot Sport Cup / Cup+
Nitto NT01
Pirelli P Zero Corsa / Trofeo
Toyo Proxes RA-1 / R888
Yokohama Advan A048 / A050


As you progress into the next category, you get more dry grip & handling, less aquaplaning resistance, increased wear & noise, etc and vice-versa.


The best road tyre at the moment is the new Michelin Pilot Super Sport, which are unbeatable in dry conditions IMO. USD 228.00 each for "225/40 ZR18 (92Y) XL" from Tire Rack. I reckon the only way to improve on these (for dry performance) is to buy tyres from the next category.

[MkVIGTI]

The 2011 tire test from the latest Wheels had the Pilot Sport 3 as the best tire. But they tested only a few tires.

[Diesel_vert]

The PSS is Michelin's flagship road tyre, but in any case, you'll definitely be better off on these - especially if dry performance is priority.