Squeeky Brakes & Dipping left mirror

[livingthedream]

A few things after the weekend

1. Does anyone else get pretty squeeky brakes on thier MkV? Especially when coming to a stop and more so on decent stops?
It doesnt seem to fall within 'normal' imo, but VW said its the compound of brake pads they use and is normal...Your thoughts

2. If my understanding is correct my left mirror is meant to dip when the car is in reverse (providing it it on 'yes' in my MFD). Mine doesnt do this but am yet to speak to VW about it...Any ideas?

Cheers

[Alfy]

is this only with a jetta though? or is the GTI meant to do this also?

[alcoop]

Mirror dip is only applicable if you have reverse sensors fitted from memory.

[Russ59]

Brake squeal can be caused by several factors. I found this site which may give you some ideas on how to eliminate the problem. Try copying and pasting this link into you internet browser and have a read through -

http://www.aa1car.com/library/tr996.htm

Hope it helps !!


Cheers
Russ

[livingthedream]

Thanks so far for feedback guys.

not sure if it applies to GTI aswell.

- I have reverse park sensors, so my mirror should dip i assume. Will be back to VW about this.
- Thanks for the link to brake noise issues. I had them cleaned and checked and am still getting the noise. When VW said it was normal i thought surely then other ppl would get it, hence the question. Seems 'dodgy' to have a brand new car with squeeling brakes.

[PhilMart]

Mirror dip is only applicable if you have reverse sensors fitted from memory.

Why would you need them to dip if you have reverse sensors! Apparently it can be done at a VW dealership .. this is third hand FROM my dealer, a salesperson whats more ... ask and see. They can make your rear wipers work in reverse, why not dip the mirrors!

[gerhard]

Just a random guess here, but perhaps the mirror dips when the car is factory fitted with reverse sensors, but if the reverse sensors are dealer fitted the ECU would need updating and the dealer was too lazy or forgot?

[Maverick]

Just a random guess here, but perhaps the mirror dips when the car is factory fitted with reverse sensors, but if the reverse sensors are dealer fitted the ECU would need updating and the dealer was too lazy or forgot?

You do need the reverse sensors to get mirror dipping on the GOLF. I have tried every combination of settings in VCDS and after doing more research it definitely requires the FACTORY reverse sensors.

All of those who fell for the bull**** from the dealers about them being able to fit the factory sensors will not have the ability to have dipping mirrors because the dealers charged you $790 to $890 for a $50 reverse sensor kit and fitting, these units don't integrate, look like crap as they stick out of the bumpers, often have ugly indication units attached around the place and don't offer the ability to be muted or change the volume of the beeping which the factory fitted ones will do.

If the sensors were not fitted at the factory and the dealer didn't charge you around $1800 (new rear bumper required for factory sensors) then you have a cheap crappy $50 unit.

[Russ59]

Thanks so far for feedback guys.

not sure if it applies to GTI aswell.

- I have reverse park sensors, so my mirror should dip i assume. Will be back to VW about this.
- Thanks for the link to brake noise issues. I had them cleaned and checked and am still getting the noise. When VW said it was normal i thought surely then other ppl would get it, hence the question. Seems 'dodgy' to have a brand new car with squeeling brakes.

It might pay you to experiment with some different brake pads in the future. My BA XR6 was the same even after changing rotors, pads, fitting new shims and anti rattle goo to the back of the pads, cleaning everything spotless, the only way to make the pads any more secure in the caliper would have been to weld the bloody things in, and guess what ???...... They still squealed on and off. I am pretty sure most of the problem is in the pad materials, the only problem is once you go to a softer pad you wear them out twice as quick and you end up with heaps of dust you just can't win !!!

Russ

[livingthedream]

You do need the reverse sensors to get mirror dipping on the GOLF. I have tried every combination of settings in VCDS and after doing more research it definitely requires the FACTORY reverse sensors.

All of those who fell for the bull**** from the dealers about them being able to fit the factory sensors will not have the ability to have dipping mirrors because the dealers charged you $790 to $890 for a $50 reverse sensor kit and fitting, these units don't integrate, look like crap as they stick out of the bumpers, often have ugly indication units attached around the place and don't offer the ability to be muted or change the volume of the beeping which the factory fitted ones will do.

If the sensors were not fitted at the factory and the dealer didn't charge you around $1800 (new rear bumper required for factory sensors) then you have a cheap crappy $50 unit.

Nup they are factory fitted on the Jetta's, definitely standard on my TFSi (and all the other Jetta models from memory).

Will raise with the dealer next time im there....

my old mans MYO7 125kw TDI passat mirror definitly dips.

Its for when you are doing reverse parks you can see the gutter and keep your mags away from it

cheers for the feedback so far though guys

[Maverick]

Nup they are factory fitted on the Jetta's, definitely standard on my TFSi (and all the other Jetta models from memory).

Will raise with the dealer next time im there....

my old mans MYO7 125kw TDI passat mirror definitly dips.

Its for when you are doing reverse parks you can see the gutter and keep your mags away from it

cheers for the feedback so far though guys

You missed the part where I was replying to Gerhards post where he said that you could have this function on GTI's with dealer fitted reverse sensors by a coding change. And you also missed the part where I explicitly said "GOLF".

Try turning off mirror syncro if you have it turned on, on some builds that was supposed to cause it problems but the one I drove the other day worked with this on.

[livingthedream]

Sorry Mav,

Skim reading, i really should stop that.

Cheers

[BarneyBoy]

Why would you need them to dip if you have reverse sensors!

The mirror dips to show you the left hand rear wheel - it'll stop you from kerbing your rims! The sensors won't do that.

[Paul_OH]

My brakes squeel a bit too (I believe the GT & GTI brakes are the same, anyone?). I've got approx 1500km on the clock and thought it may have gone away during the bed-in process but it hasn't. It's not through the whole braking process but appears just before the wheels come to a stop. I had a mechanic friend listen to it and he didn't think that it was an issue as it sounded to him like a hard compound type noise as opposed to something that could be easily fixed by applying pad 'goo' or whatever it's called.
He also mentioned that you could spend hours and hours trying to fix it and still be the same. I don't mind it too much just wanted to check if nothing was wrong.

[turboveedubb]

My brakes squeak a bit in the cold mornings and when I'm just lightly coming to a stop like the pad is JUST touching the discs but once they warm up i can't really hear them.. or is it drowned out by the engine/stereo/exhaust

The reverse mirror dip is an option which u can set urself in the MY08 spec jettas with the bigger screen in the middle of the cluster (MFD Plus or something).

It was enabled by the dealer, but I disabled it cos I found it a hassle and the reverse parking sensors work fine for me and if I need to look at how close I am to the kerb I'd just use the undignified try and stretch as high as I can to get a better angle method, looks undignified, feels like my head's about to come off but it works!

Edit:
And yes I think the GT, GTI and Jetta TFSI are running the same brakes in terms of the rotor diameter (according the the specs on Carsales anyway) please correct me if I'm wrong.