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  • mkv gti dsg - accelerator pedal

    call me STUPID, but it's taken me almost a year to figure out that you can push down on the pedal EXTRA hard - almost like a 2nd stage mechanism.

    sorry if there is a thread about this already. know one taught me this...so hopefully i am passing on some knowledge to other newbie mkv dsg dubbers.

    example 1 - when you're cruising in Drive (full auto) at say 80-90kmph in 6th, if you plant your foot to the floor, the revs automatically pop up and shifts down to say 2nd or 3rd. we all know if you're planning on driving HARD, being in stock standard "Drive" mode is not as responsive as the manual DSG.

    example 2 - if you're in DSG mode with manual shifts, cruising at 80-90kmph in 6th, if you plant your foot to the floor, the car continues to accelerate in the same gear. when i say plant, your foot (and pedal) depresses to a point where you can feel the pedal having some form of resistance (a stopping point).

    for the past few months, if i wanted to get the revs up etc, i have been leaving my foot on the gas, and shifting down 2-3 times to hit 3rd or 4th to get the revs up. i have found this has had some slight lag, no doubt losing boost and time in shifting.

    however, today (while in manual mode)...i realised that if you push the pedal even HARDER (past the stopping point), you feel a slight click, and an extra 1 or 1.5cm of further depression.

    what does it do? well...same scenario, if you're in manual mode, cruising at 80-90kmph in 6th, if you plant your foot down, and push even harder, you feel the slight click...then the DSG automatically selects the most optimum lowest gear (usually 2nd or 3rd) for you to take off, and continue to shift manually.

    therefore, it negates the need to down shift. trick is, you need to plant your foot down and hold it. if you ease off too quickly, it will select 2nd and change back to 6th.
    mk2 GTI 16v

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    indeed you are correct same with all DSG's not just the gti. stick that post up in one of the stickies
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    • #3
      Good stuff. I'll have to find out if my Dad knows about this. You guys obviously haven't been driving hard enough though if you haven't worked this out already. Or do you have to apply a surprisingly excessive amount of pressure?
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Treza360 View Post
        Good stuff. I'll have to find out if my Dad knows about this. You guys obviously haven't been driving hard enough though if you haven't worked this out already. Or do you have to apply a surprisingly excessive amount of pressure?
        i have a real transmission thank you very much. none of this girly double clutch business hehe
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Mischa View Post
          i have a real transmission thank you very much. none of this girly double clutch business hehe
          You should hang out with the Steam powered car club! heheah
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Treza360 View Post
            Good stuff. I'll have to find out if my Dad knows about this. You guys obviously haven't been driving hard enough though if you haven't worked this out already. Or do you have to apply a surprisingly excessive amount of pressure?
            no...i drive HARD! average about 11-12L...so i give it a fair bit of poke. yeah...it's not like you have to apply an excessive amount of pressure...but there is a point where you think the pedal stops...but really, it doesn't!

            the little mechanism i speak about really only helps if you're cruising in 6th (while in manual mode), and want to make a quick shift to 2nd or 3rd...which is pretty rare anyway, cause if you're driving hard, you're always in the right gear most of the time...and "cruising" in 6th is non-existent.
            mk2 GTI 16v

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            • #7
              That's the kickdown switch.

              All auto's old & new, GM & Ford incl. standard auto, DSG, SMG (BMW) etc. have a kickdown switch whether it be a mechanical linkage or electric switch.

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              • #8
                Ya that is right, even my old 92 BMW 735iL had it. Guessing you've never stamped on the FAST pedal before!

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mischa View Post
                  i have a real transmission thank you very much. none of this girly double clutch business hehe

                  huahuahuahua.... u funny,dude... 'girly double clutch business'


                  dang... why did i chosed DSG at the end!!!
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                  • #10
                    my old VY SS commodore used to have something like that, ive never actually noticed the clicking of the pedal until i saw this thread though in my GTI
                    Blue Graphite MY08 3 Door GTI, Leather, DSG

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by golfworx View Post
                      That's the kickdown switch.

                      All auto's old & new, GM & Ford incl. standard auto, DSG, SMG (BMW) etc. have a kickdown switch whether it be a mechanical linkage or electric switch.
                      That's partially wrong. Most new vehicles running "fly by wire" utilise a potentiometer only at the throttle pedal, there is no kickdown switch whatsoever. The resistance readings sent to the ECU from the potentiometer allow it to determine when downshifts are required, depending on speed, current gear etc.

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