DSG clutch

[les88]

When you are creeping along in traffic would the clutch be slipping to make the forward motion similar to a torque converter? ?
les

[Spoddy]

When you are creeping along in traffic would the clutch be slipping to make the forward motion similar to a torque converter? ?
les

Depends on the speed but typically a diesel will idle in first without riding the clutch due to the amount of torque.

[LiFers]

I tested this briefly on a test drive of a Jetta. My one concern with the DSG is losing my torque converter's lovely creep and balance abilities.

Balancing on a hill with the 2.0l Turbo, the DSG slips the clutch. It feels a little uncomfortable on the accelerator (not smooth like a torque converter), (I'm sure the passengers won't notice) and I'm sure it's not a good idea to do it often, but it works fine.

Any faster than a slight crawl and 1st gear would probably be fine.

Perhaps someone should read the manual and see what it says about balancing on a hill.

[Logzy]

I tested this briefly on a test drive of a Jetta. My one concern with the DSG is losing my torque converter's lovely creep and balance abilities.

Balancing on a hill with the 2.0l Turbo, the DSG slips the clutch. It feels a little uncomfortable on the accelerator (not smooth like a torque converter), (I'm sure the passengers won't notice) and I'm sure it's not a good idea to do it often, but it works fine.

Any faster than a slight crawl and 1st gear would probably be fine.

Perhaps someone should read the manual and see what it says about balancing on a hill.

Why would you "balance" on a hill, just sit there with you foot on the brake. Thats what brakes are for.

[blutopless2]

i have found with my Jetta TSI that when i am on a hill and take my foot off the brake pedal the car rolls a fraction backwards before the gearbox takes up the slack and starts to roll me forward before i have even hit the accelerator. I have never found a need to use the accelerator to remain stationary on a hill.

[Treza360]

I think I read somewhere that the 08 upgraded DSGs have a hill assist in them? Can anyone verify this? I figure it's something like what Subaru have where as you take your foot off the brake and it holds until you start releasing the clutch and take off.
Dad's 07 GTI does the roll back thing on a hill as well before it takes off. Rolls forward on a hill if you're reversing up the hill as well I think.

[Purgi]

Steep hill, foot on the brake (or engage the handbrake) and foot on the go pedal, release the brake as necessary. If you have one arm and one leg, my condolances.

Certainly a lot more comfortable than steep hill starting a manual XR8. My knees are still aching.

[mr_walker]

Mine has an anti rollback feature where if the incline is greater than 15 degrees, it keeps the brake engaged for 2 seconds after you take your foot off it.

I haven't actually tried it yet though.

[Manaz]

When you are creeping along in traffic would the clutch be slipping to make the forward motion similar to a torque converter? ?
les

No worse than if you had a "regular" manual transmission. And they survive fine.

[Greg Roles]

Steep hill, foot on the brake (or engage the handbrake) and foot on the go pedal, release the brake as necessary. If you have one arm and one leg, my condolances.

Certainly a lot more comfortable than steep hill starting a manual XR8. My knees are still aching.

I thought you slipped the tyres in an eight?

[nismo23]

To the people who have trouble with balancing on hills, why dont you just go and do what dsg's are really good at.
I cant help thinking they out weigh the little idiosyncrisies.

eg:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81ciFyfBaxs

[LiFers]

Why would you "balance" on a hill, just sit there with you foot on the brake. Thats what brakes are for.

There are plenty of instances of traffic on hills, and unless you've balanced on a torque converter, you won't understand the ease of it.

There's a particularly steep hill with an intersection on top at Coogee and there are plenty of bad manual drivers who stop at the bottom until there is no traffic. There's plenty who I'm sure burn up some clutch. But there's more Auto drivers that just balance on the crest.

Steep hill, foot on the brake (or engage the handbrake) and foot on the go pedal, release the brake as necessary. If you have one arm and one leg, my condolances.

There is already another thread saying that this doesn't work with the handbrake, the DSG just goes into Neutral.

I'm not saying creep is the deciding factor of a DSG, I'd buy one anyway. I'm just used to rolling to a perfect stop on a hill, and balancing, and it's interesting to see how different technology copes with the different circumstances.

[mr_walker]

There's a cool vid about how DSG works at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVWP7TYhP0c

[THR]

There is already another thread saying that this doesn't work with the handbrake, the DSG just goes into Neutral.

Use the handbrake all the time... never had it go into neutral.

[Purgi]

I thought you slipped the tyres in an eight?

Depends if plod is watching.