BKD Timing belt replacement

[BMN]

Hi guys,

Im new to the forum and was hoping to get some help with my '07 Jetta, BKD DOHC TDI.

I want to replace the timing belt on the car at its normal 105k service interval, and was wondering if it is possible to do this without adjusting the timing, ie: without slackening the bolts on cam pullies, but by simply keeping the existing settings. Dont really want to pay for the full timing kit if not really necessary but I guess will do it if I have to. Car idles and runs well at the moment. What do you think?

Cheers, BMN

[vdubmotorworx]

You can get the full kit which includes rollers, tensioners, belt and new nuts and bolts....you will need a crank locking tool (there are 2 types depending on engine code) and 2 locking pins for the cams, you need to slacken off the cams after the tools are inserted so you get the timing/ tension right when it goes back on....did mine last month at home in the garage, nice and steady and got it all bang on my the mm and now ive noticed improved fuel eco by about 50km per tank...worth doing it correctly mate...VDUB...

[Umai Naa!!]

The big idler pulley is usually stuffed by the time the belt is due to be replaced, anyway.

As above, not worth skimping on these things.

[BMN]

Hi, replied yesterday, but doesn’t seem to have worked. Thanks for the useful advice, hope I have as much success as you – how hard can it be right. I will replace everything, but just trying to work out what tools I need (before I actually need them!)

Do you have any suggestions for what I can use as a cam sprocket tensioner (T10172)? Also what did you use instead of the 2-hole pin wrench (T10020) that vw suggest for the tensioning roller tool? Any suggestions appreciated, as these items don’t seem to be in the normal kits you can buy?
Finally, did you have to build a support for the engine, so that you could remove one of the engine mounts?
Lots of questions I know!

Cheers, BMN

[vdubmotorworx]

you just support the with a trolley jack and rubber block under the sump/ gearbox...you can actually buy the special tools direct from vw parts...VDUB...

[BMN]

Great, thanks for that info, will start buying the tools. Getting a real collection for this car, whereas never got a single tool in my previous 20+ years of mucking around with cars. It's always very rewarding when up and running again. Do you suggest genuine or non-gen parts?

[vdubmotorworx]

gen from vw

[jdd]

I'm also coming up for a cam belt replacement in the next 6 months and have been advised to also replace the water pump at the same time. Apparently these have a habit of going between the 1st and 2nd cam belt replacements and are significantly easier to replace whilst doing the cam belt. I'm told they have a plastic impeller that deteriorates and falls apart and you can get after-market ones with metal impellers.
Would be interested to hear peoples’ opinions on this, especially the guys that work on these for a living.

[vdubmotorworx]

all of the above is correct...get a none gen with metal internals...VDUB..

[jdd]

Can you please clarify what you mean by "none gen", I think you meant to say non-genuine but if you could please confirm that would be great.
Also, do you or anybody else for that matter have any recommendations for brand of aftermarket water pump?

[BMN]

Yes, I was wondering about non-genuine water pumps as well. I've installed non-genuine pumps in the past (on non-vw cars) that had runout that looked terrible but they seemed to last ok. It seems a bit more important on my BKD engine as the water pump is driven by the timing belt rather than the poly-v belt (alternator etc). On the other hand, if brands like Continental make replacemnt water pumps, how bad could they be? Prob go genuine however, but would depend on if you going to keep car?

I also always replace the thermostat, but then canberra is cold and things dont work exactly like they should in the cold once the thermostat is stuck open!

[vdubmotorworx]

Can you please clarify what you mean by "none gen", I think you meant to say non-genuine but if you could please confirm that would be great.
Also, do you or anybody else for that matter have any recommendations for brand of aftermarket water pump?

sorry for being lazy...yes none genuine...

[Steve879]

My jetta is booked in at Canberra vw centre at belconnen on Monday, I have always done most things on my cars, but for this, I don't have the time or patience to do it! Mine is being done as we are not sure when it was done last, cheap insurance I guess, and that includes the water pump.

[BMN]

That sound very much like me, but I'm persisting with the maintance cause I get a lot of enjoyment from it (even if a pain at times). Ive done the dsg oil, rear brakes and general servicing, and I've got a vagcom, so keep in touch if you need something. I've actually got mine booked in for brake fluid on Tuesday in Woden, but that is the first time I've taken to a shop. Mob: 0408874346

[jets]

Do you have any suggestions for what I can use as a cam sprocket tensioner (T10172)? Also what did you use instead of the 2-hole pin wrench (T10020) that vw suggest for the tensioning roller tool?

My Golf is due for a timing belt change, not on mileage but the 7 year recommendation. I have been reading up on it, made the engine support & purchased the tool kit from EBAY UK. It doesn't include the T10172 which by itself & postage is quite expensive so I will need to make that one. Unfortunately I will need to take dims. after I have removed the cam cover etc. Anyone have a cam pulley that could take some dims. for me?
Regarding T10020, I don't think you will need one as I believe an allen key will work.