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    After reading all the issues with the 118tsi engine has anyone had the same issues with 125kw engine from the GT Sport?

    Ours has been fine the only issue we have had is failure of the n75 valve.

    What is the difference between the 118tsi and the 125kw version?

    Cheers
    Costa......
    2009 Volkswagen R36 Wagon
    1968 Audi F103 75L Coupe
    1966 Volkswagen Beetle Deluxe

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    The 118TSI in the Golf 6 can be either a 1.4 Turbo, no Supercharger, or a 1.4 Twincharge.

    As far as mechanical differences go on the twincharge, I 'm no authority but I imagine it would be revision rather than anything majorly different.

    From what I know that engine has been canned now anyway. Not bad for 2009-2010 International Engine of the Year
    Last edited by benough; 08-06-2013, 03:02 PM.

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    • #3
      [QUOTE=XXX-1.8T;960265]After reading all the issues with the 118tsi engine has anyone had the same issues with 125kw engine from the GT Sport?

      Ours has been fine the only issue we have had is failure of the n75 valve.

      What is the difference between the 118tsi and the 125kw version?


      I have the 125 kw Gt diesel sports ,Ive never had an engine problem, I only had the Injectors and loom replaced under the recall 23H9
      Mine did have a hesitation when going up hills on the change down but they reflashed the ECU when they replaced the injectors ,now its running like new.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by benough View Post
        The 118TSI in the Golf 6 can be either a 1.4 Turbo, no Supercharger, or a 1.4 Twincharge.

        As far as mechanical differences go on the twincharge, I 'm no authority but I imagine it would be revision rather than anything majorly different.

        From what I know that engine has been canned now anyway. Not bad for 2009-2010 International Engine of the Year
        Sorry I meant the petrol 1.4 twin charge engine.

        So is the 118tsi twin charge with all the probs?

        Should I be worried?
        2009 Volkswagen R36 Wagon
        1968 Audi F103 75L Coupe
        1966 Volkswagen Beetle Deluxe

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        • #5
          yes Costa (Zorg2)
          B6 Passat Wagon No KESSY

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          • #6
            I have just bought a 125kw GT Sport (MY0. It had 92k on the clock and I've added about another 1000km to it since. I can't detect any issues with it at all. There's nothing in the service history to indicate its had any additional work done on the engine either.

            Matt.
            MY08 Mk5 GT Sport - sold
            MY14 Tiguan 118TSI - sold (Mazda3 SP25GT in its place)
            MY16 Golf 7R: sold (Caterham Super 7 and Hyundai i30N in its place)

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            • #7
              Pretty sure the 2009-2010/11 engines were the only ones affected mate.

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              • #8
                Costa,

                I have an 09 GT Sport petrol twin charger and touch wood the only thing needed early on was a software upgrade to fix incorrect boosting.

                The difference between the 125kw engines and the newer twin chargers, I believe, was primarily a detune and improved fuel economy. Now I'm not all that up on the technicalities but to make the engine more fuel efficient, it ran leaner which resulted in engine issues after time, sorry about the vagueness. Someone here will be able to give you more detail I'm sure.

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                • #9
                  From the Polo 6R oil consumption thread - the GTi uses a 132kW version of the 118TSi twincharger

                  Originally posted by Varnak View Post
                  My friend for me is dead simple what is going on here. The twincharger engine was, in euro4 format, an excellent unit with the only criticism from rivals being its high emissions. Here in Europe emissions are of high importance since we are getting taxed based on them. Also note that the last cavd engine could not go to production (being marginally euro 5 on the scirocco).

                  60 per cent of the mechanical losses of internal combustion engines are due to cylinder piston ring contact. What to you do to reduce emissions ? You reduce tension between the two. Well in theory that produced the perfect engine with 138grams/ almost 200 hp stock and consumption only up by 10% when compared with cavd units ( still very sensible). In practice though they failed to accommodate for the rapid boost build up of the compressor with the new piston/piston rings setup, thus the screw up.
                  Can they sort the problem? Of course it is dead simple: just change the piston and piston rings back to CAVD specs, there! Problem sorted.

                  Can they solve the problem and meet emissions standards as advertised? NOT A CHANCE. Thus they are pretending nothing is wrong as a strategic decision. The VAG group would not admit to such a major engineering screw up. They will happily change as many engines as you want while in warranty until they produce the mk6 polo/mk6 ibiza with a new engine line up.

                  This is accordance to their first attempted fix of installing thicker piston rings ( i.e higher tension) but obviously that was not well thought out either, or not well executed by dealers.

                  So if you like the car and want to keep it, find a good local garage buy 4 piston and piston ring sets from a CAVD engine and off you go. A lot of guys down here have done just that and solved their consumption issues. Some even tried aftermarket piston ring sets and that solved the problem. Of course you need to re-hone the cylinder walls before installation.


                  Sorry for the long post but hopefully it brings some light into what is going and a propose a tested solution.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by benough View Post
                    The 118TSI in the Golf 6 can be either a 1.4 Turbo, no Supercharger, or a 1.4 Twincharge.
                    The MkVI Golf with the 1.4 Turbo, no Supercharger is the 90 TSi, not the 118 TSi
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                    • #11
                      Any 1.4 is prone to engine issues , I have a 2007 GT here getting an engine rebuild + other issues ! (has less than 80k km on the clock ! )
                      Bug_racer supports the rebellion of the euro revolution

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by kaanage View Post
                        The MkVI Golf with the 1.4 Turbo, no Supercharger is the 90 TSi, not the 118 TSi
                        Cheers

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                        • #13
                          Golf GT sport problems?

                          What I have noticed with mine is that the fuel gauge is not very good. It takes a long time to drop from full to 1/2 full and then drops very quickly to empty. It typically says it does 400+km on 1/2 tank and then does only 200km on the second half. Tonight it went from 110km range to 20km range and the fuel light within 20km. I wasn't driving it hard either.

                          Has anyone else noticed the fuel gauge not being particularly consistent across the needle's movement range?
                          MY08 Mk5 GT Sport - sold
                          MY14 Tiguan 118TSI - sold (Mazda3 SP25GT in its place)
                          MY16 Golf 7R: sold (Caterham Super 7 and Hyundai i30N in its place)

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mattlock View Post
                            What I have noticed with mine is that the fuel gauge is not very good. It takes a long time to drop from full to 1/2 full and then drops very quickly to empty. It typically says it does 400+km on 1/2 tank and then does only 200km on the second half. Tonight it went from 110km range to 20km range and the fuel light within 20km. I wasn't driving it hard either.

                            Has anyone else noticed the fuel gauge not being particularly consistent across the needle's movement range?



                            mine does this as well





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                            • #15
                              I think it's pretty common on the Golf platform due to the way they funnel the base of the fuel tank - our Polo and MkVI Golf are the same
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