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  • Golf GT Sport TDI - Quick Write Up

    Well here's the quick write-up on my new GT Sport TDI in manual I've been promising for a while now. The car has close to 1500 on the clock and hence have been able to give it a good long flogging up putty road (highly recommended for anyone who wants to get to know their car intimately).



    As far as appearance goes, its not really very flashy. I personally really like the understated look of golfs but then again, I guess I'm a bit bias I really like the classic look of the (bbs?) wheels vw decided to put on (also seen on the jetta tfsi). They look bigger than 17" from a distance, and the conti tyres don't look like tractor tyres like some others of the same profile (although they're a painful 450$ a corner). The spoilers and bumpers look gti-like but they're not actually the same. the car lacks the side skirts (which i think look tacky anyway) and the front and rear bumpers are not quite as aggressive looking as the gti's despite being different to the comfortline models. But what i think really sets the car's look apart from the plainer golfs is the front grille; Its big and black and give the car a much meaner look, especially coupled with the smoked headlights. I'm a lover of clean looking cars so I've taken all the badges off as you can see from the photos. The car usually has "Golf 2.0 TDI" on the back and a small GT Sport badge on the front.



    The interior of the car also follows the understated pattern. The red seats are very subtle and the steering wheel is the one shared with the comfortline, the only difference being the chrome GT badge. The bigger bolsters on the seats are handy, but they are by no means racing seats.



    For the topic of performance it really depends which angle you look at it from. When you look at it from a sports car perspective, its not really all that impressive (although not too shabby either) but when compared to other diesels and most regular petrol cars, this thing is awsome. Its straight line speed is more than adequate (tyres screech all the way to 70km/h) and can reach 200 and beyond fairly easily. The brakes are more than adequate for most uses also, even if they are slightly spongy. It has bigger brakes than the comfortline although I'm not sure if its the same setup at the GTI. The suspension isnt bad either, there is surprisingly little nose-dive when braking harshly and the roll in corners is rather limited also. But in saying this, it is a far cry from a car with good aftermarket suspension setup. It also does, not surprisingly, suffer from some understeer and is not forgiving when the correct line and speed is not taken into a corner however, it is a good balance between comfort and performance (however performance is more of an issue for me than comfort so a few years down the track i may purchase some coilovers). The one main criticism i have of the car's performance is the gear ratios. 1st and 2nd gear are so short that constant shifting is needed through traffic and through the suburbs. 1st will take you to 40 and 2nd only gets you to 70. it could get tedious for someone who is not quite as much of a die-hard manual fan as i am. Despite my criticisms though, i am truly impressed with its performance and its a very fun car to drive. It is definitely in the league of the golf gti (and with a flash of the ecu from oettinger or other companies, it will have more power than a stock gti).



    One last thing i might mention is price. Compared to other hatchbacks, theres no denying that the golf is more expensive. But in my opinion the premium paid is money well spent. The interior is of high quality and feels rather luxury (even though i have the standard cloth seats) and the most trouble you are likely to have with the car is a few rattles. Despite this, within the golf range it is debatable whether the diesel is worth the premium over the petrol. It would take most people 3-5years to recoup the cost of the diesel compared to the tsi. But obviously cost is just one of the benefits of driving a diesel. If you're a lead foot the benefits of having the diesel will be greater than if you drive like a granny. I paid 39990 on-road for mine, the only option being the metallic paint (and floor mats of course).

    Sorry for the terrible pictures... The car is dirty and it was low light. I'll take better ones on the weekend i promise.

    Quick stats for comparison copied from vw website (although vw notoriously understates their power and performance figures)

    GT TDI:
    Power 125kw (170ps)

    Performance (manual/DSG)
    0 – 100 km/h 8.2 8.2
    Top speed, km/h 220 218
    Fuel Consumption *
    Combined, L/100km 6.6 6.3
    CO2 emission g/km 174 168

    GT TSI:
    Power 125kw (170ps)

    Performance (manual/DSG)
    0 – 100 km/h 7.9 7.7
    Top speed, km/h 220 218
    Fuel Consumption *
    Combined, L/100km 7.7 7.7
    CO2 emission g/km 184 183

    GTI:
    Power 147kw (200ps)

    Performance (manual/DSG)
    0 – 100 km/h 7.2 6.9
    Top speed, km/h 235 233
    Fuel Consumption *
    Combined, L/100km 8.1 8.0
    CO2 emission g/km 194 192

    Comfortline TDI:
    Power 103kw (140ps)

    Performance (manual/DSG)
    0 – 100 km/h 9.3 9.3
    Top speed, km/h 205 203
    Fuel Consumption *
    Combined, L/100km 5.7 6.1
    CO2 emission g/km 154 165
    New user account: Mischa

    Have: gt sport tdi, mk2 gti, mk1 3dr

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    New user account: Mischa

    Have: gt sport tdi, mk2 gti, mk1 3dr

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    • #3
      Congrats again Thanks for the pics etc and the lil write up. Did you remove the badges yourself or get the dealer to do so? I gather the ones on the body are just stuck on with adhesive, if you removed them yourself was it hard to do and did you do any damage to the body and have to do some minor patch work/buffing? Makes me want mine now even more than ever
      GOLF GT SPORT TDI SUNROOF, XENONS

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      • #4
        got the dealer to do it but yes, they're just stuck on. it wont damage the paint to take them off, i'm guessing you would just use fishing wire and slide it between the badge and the body and then use turps or metho to dissolve the rest of the adhesive off. the front badge is just clipped into the grille.

        the wait is horrible sorry to make it worse for you
        New user account: Mischa

        Have: gt sport tdi, mk2 gti, mk1 3dr

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        • #5
          Originally posted by GermanwithaVdub View Post
          got the dealer to do it but yes, they're just stuck on. it wont damage the paint to take them off, i'm guessing you would just use fishing wire and slide it between the badge and the body and then use turps or metho to dissolve the rest of the adhesive off. the front badge is just clipped into the grille.

          the wait is horrible sorry to make it worse for you
          Ummm yeah cheers ta thanks for that!! BTW do me a favour never use turps or metho on your paintwork.. best way to ruin it. Small amount of prepsol or similar is best. Did you get the keep the badges that the dealer removed? If so, i'll take em if you dont want them!!! Just pm me and kets make a deal!!!
          GOLF GT SPORT TDI SUNROOF, XENONS

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          • #6
            Originally posted by TDI Dude View Post
            Ummm yeah cheers ta thanks for that!! BTW do me a favour never use turps or metho on your paintwork.. best way to ruin it. Small amount of prepsol or similar is best. Did you get the keep the badges that the dealer removed? If so, i'll take em if you dont want them!!! Just pm me and kets make a deal!!!
            my bad thats why i said "im guessing" they said they'd leave them in the glovebox but surprise surprise they werent there. i will go and get them when i can be bothered but id rather like to keep them in case i ever want to sell it and the new owner wants the badges. you can ebay the badges for not much though.
            New user account: Mischa

            Have: gt sport tdi, mk2 gti, mk1 3dr

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            • #7
              Good write up there mate, and I would agree with almost everything you have said. I’ve only done 900 km so far, but I am really enjoying the car and finding that although it’s not quite the excitement machine that my XR5 Turbo was (and I do really miss the exquisite 5 pot soundtrack), it is still a more than capable performer, and definitely brings a smile to the face when you get on the twisty stuff.

              The car has good balance, and great grip, and all that torque means there is always plenty of instant acceleration on tap. I do find however that the extra weight over the front axle is noticeable when throwing the car around, and it does have a tendency to become a bit ‘understeery’ when pushing the limits of adhesion. Having said that, it’s still more fun than you would have ever thought possible in a diesel!

              I guess the interior is somewhat understated, but I find it quite classy, and a very nice place to be. I agree that the seats could do with a bit more lateral support, as they don’t quite hold you in place when you’re carving up the corners in a spirited manner, but again I think they look great, and are very comfortable.

              NVH levels are acceptable for a car with sports suspension and 17” wheels. The ride quality is firm, but not to the point where you have to rush out and get dental insurance, and it is relatively smooth and quiet at cruising speeds. The car does have more body roll than I’m used to though, and I will be getting aftermarket springs in the near future.

              I bought the GT Sport TDI because I was looking for a car with genuine driver appeal that had great fuel economy, and thus far it has provided both. For a car that pulls like a teenage boy with a Bras n Things catalogue, I reckon an average fuel consumption of 5.6l / 100 km is outstanding – and it’s only going to get better!

              The only aspect of the car I’m disappointed with is the styling, and I’m currently looking into some aesthetic improvements. As you say, the front end isn’t too bad, but from most other angles quite it looks quite ‘whimpy’ to be honest. I’m getting the Gti side skirts fitted and then having them (and the front and rear bumpers) colour coded so it will basically look like a full body kit.

              I’ll be fitting some lowering springs and also be getting some new rims as I’m not a huge fan of the standard rims. Sure they are quite stylish, but to me, they don’t look like they belong on a ‘sports car’. I reckon some anthracite 5 spokes with a machined lip (like those magnificent Oettinger rims) should look the goods.
              Former GT Sport TDI owner.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by orsegtsport View Post
                The only aspect of the car I’m disappointed with is the styling, and I’m currently looking into some aesthetic improvements. As you say, the front end isn’t too bad, but from most other angles quite it looks quite ‘whimpy’ to be honest. I’m getting the Gti side skirts fitted and then having them (and the front and rear bumpers) colour coded so it will basically look like a full body kit.

                I’ll be fitting some lowering springs and also be getting some new rims as I’m not a huge fan of the standard rims. Sure they are quite stylish, but to me, they don’t look like they belong on a ‘sports car’. I reckon some anthracite 5 spokes with a machined lip (like those magnificent Oettinger rims) should look the goods.
                sounds like your car is going to be quite mean looking when you're done with it. the comment about the gti skirts being tacky only applies to the ones left black, its as though vw forgot to paint them or something. colour coded it will look the goods i also plan on colour coding mine.

                i think this car is a bit of everything. its some sports car, some frugal hatchback, some luxury ; and thats exactly why i like it besides, my mk2 is going to be sucking up all the funds from here on in
                New user account: Mischa

                Have: gt sport tdi, mk2 gti, mk1 3dr

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                • #9
                  I like the twin pipes that you can see. Like the Rabbits in the US.
                  SPoddy
                  2020 Tiguan 162TSI R-Line

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                  • #10
                    Nice post. I agree with everything you said apart that i didn't try to push my TDI all the way up to 70km in second.
                    Highest ever I did it is 60km.
                    One thing that I find it annoying is when taking off in first gear... sudden burst of speed and power ( when turbo kicks in ). If nor prepared for it you can easily rear end car in front (and in WA there are to many people taking off like 50 tonne truck)
                    GOLF V 2.0 TDI COMFORTLINE
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by acdcfan View Post
                      Nice post. I agree with everything you said apart that i didn't try to push my TDI all the way up to 70km in second.
                      Highest ever I did it is 60km.
                      One thing that I find it annoying is when taking off in first gear... sudden burst of speed and power ( when turbo kicks in ). If nor prepared for it you can easily rear end car in front (and in WA there are to many people taking off like 50 tonne truck)
                      i've noticed the gear ratios in the gt are different to in my former comfortline. when i said 70 that was what the climate control told me, so it looked more like 75 on the speedo.

                      taking off certainly took a bit of getting used to, its very easy to stall it if you dont give it enough throttle
                      New user account: Mischa

                      Have: gt sport tdi, mk2 gti, mk1 3dr

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                      • #12
                        Nice write up and congratulations on the car.

                        One thing I don't agree with is the 3 - 5 year recoup on the purchase price for the diesel. This is not the complete picture, but it is one that journos are fond of pushing.

                        If your TDI cost $3000 more than my TSI, you DON'T need 3 -5 years of fuel savings to recoup the extra cost of the car. With a depreciation ratio of 62 or 63%, at the end of 3 years, that extra $3000 will return you $2000, leaving a $1000 extra outlay over a petrol model. See, although your diesel cost more to buy, it's also WORTH more as well.

                        When you factor in the added resale of your TDI, your payback period will be about 9 months. Tell the disbelievers to bugger off!

                        One other thing: the rest of the car looks so clean and trim - what's with the Ps jammed under the plates?
                        2007 Golf GT | DSG | TR | roof | iPod rubbish | R line fog grilles | R satin mirror caps | R pedals | R console trim | colour coded GTI valences | R32 Ormanyts

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by BarneyBoy View Post
                          Nice write up and congratulations on the car.

                          One thing I don't agree with is the 3 - 5 year recoup on the purchase price for the diesel. This is not the complete picture, but it is one that journos are fond of pushing.

                          If your TDI cost $3000 more than my TSI, you DON'T need 3 -5 years of fuel savings to recoup the extra cost of the car. With a depreciation ratio of 62 or 63%, at the end of 3 years, that extra $3000 will return you $2000, leaving a $1000 extra outlay over a petrol model. See, although your diesel cost more to buy, it's also WORTH more as well.

                          When you factor in the added resale of your TDI, your payback period will be about 9 months. Tell the disbelievers to bugger off!

                          One other thing: the rest of the car looks so clean and trim - what's with the Ps jammed under the plates?
                          the comment about the recouping of costs wasnt copied from what a journo said, its just what i figured it would take me (driving average km's) to recoup the extra cost since i dont plan on selling my car anywhere in the foreseeable future; its definitely worth it for me.

                          and yes... those ugly P-plates do belong to me sadly, they kinda ruin the clean look of the car but what can ya do
                          New user account: Mischa

                          Have: gt sport tdi, mk2 gti, mk1 3dr

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GermanwithaVdub View Post
                            those ugly P-plates do belong to me sadly, they kinda ruin the clean look of the car but what can ya do
                            Get something thats like a transfer/sticker just with a green P and stick it to the bodywork.... Green and Silver would look better.
                            SPoddy
                            2020 Tiguan 162TSI R-Line

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                            • #15
                              nice write up, wouldnt mind having a drive of one myself!
                              how did you afford a brand new one of these on your P's! would be an awesomely quick car when its chipped.
                              VW: it aint just a car, its a way of life
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