mkv gti upgraded swaybar combo. Whiteline ? ECS ? nuespeed ? H+R ? Also links to buy?

[bennjamin]

hi everyone.

Considering a swaybar F/R combo for the golf GTi. No intention of lowering the car - so swaybars it is.

Researched abit - there is three combos that i can find people talk about - whiteline , H+R and ECS tuning.

Has anyone here had any experience with the above mentioned kits ?
Whats a better option for street/occasional track use ? I mean longevity/safety towards the subframes etc.
Any issues with running standard endlinks ?

I personally am leaning towards the ECS tuning 26mm F / 23mm R
And avoiding anything whiteline.

Finally , anyone have links to places for purchase other brands or alternatives such as H+R etc ?

Thanks !

[h100vw]

What's the objection to changing the suspension? You can replace that without lowering. I have coilovers on my S3 and have them set pretty much at the standard ride height.

How many Ks on your car. I'd say over 60/70000, I'd be looking to replace that. I think you would get more benefit from it.

Gavin

hi everyone.

Considering a swaybar F/R combo for the golf GTi. No intention of lowering the car - so swaybars it is.

Researched abit - there is three combos that i can find people talk about - whiteline , H+R and ECS tuning.

Has anyone here had any experience with the above mentioned kits ?
Whats a better option for street/occasional track use ? I mean longevity/safety towards the subframes etc.
Any issues with running standard endlinks ?

I personally am leaning towards the ECS tuning 26mm F / 23mm R
And avoiding anything whiteline.

Finally , anyone have links to places for purchase other brands or alternatives such as H+R etc ?

Thanks !

[bennjamin]

What's the objection to changing the suspension? You can replace that without lowering. I have coilovers on my S3 and have them set pretty much at the standard ride height.

How many Ks on your car. I'd say over 60/70000, I'd be looking to replace that. I think you would get more benefit from it.

Gavin

Yes its the standard suspension but I want to maintain the ride as it is but decrease obvious roll. F/R upgraded swaybars will achieve this for the street and some track work. Appreciate your point but suspension will be something only replaced if i frequent the track.

[DkN]

Got Whiteline rear 24mm set on medium, no other mods to suspension. Fair improvement, and if set on hard and matched with fronts I don't see any reason to get any of the thicker / harder ones for street use. IMO Whiteline is the best bang for buck and judging from your posts you're not looking for big track upgrades anyway.

[Whiteline]

Got Whiteline rear 24mm set on medium, no other mods to suspension. Fair improvement, and if set on hard and matched with fronts I don't see any reason to get any of the thicker / harder ones for street use. IMO Whiteline is the best bang for buck and judging from your posts you're not looking for big track upgrades anyway.

We agree this is a good bang for buck set up.

If you want to maintain daily driving comfort with more grip and better handling then sway bars are the best option.

As the Golf are prone to understeer my opinion would be to grab a rear bar first and try it and see how it feels as in allot of cases this will all that will be needed and the car should be nuetral through corners with the exception of maybe a little lift off over steer.
This was if you find there is too much oversteer then you could add the front one at a later date and this way you get to feel the benefit of the product you bought and know what it has done.If you buy both straight up and find you have understeer still then you remove the front bar it will be a wasted purchase.
As you can see i am not here to cold sell items Whiteline rathers i give the best advice even if it means the customer buying less items .

[thezoneR32]

Or perhaps you an get the H&R ones that are made in Germany as opposed to Korea.

[DkN]

Or perhaps you an get the H&R ones that are made in Germany as opposed to Korea.

Don't be too quick to judge on that. As far as feedback on Whiteline products are concerned they're solid products, but are generally softer than their more expensive counterparts. This could be a good or bad thing depending on what you're after.

IMO Whiteline is fine for street use, if you want more performance it would probably be worthwhile to get decent springs / coils. I'm not an expert but my understanding is that a hard RSB will also affect the ride in the back seats.

[bennjamin]

Thanks for the thoughts guys. Still aiming for F+R combo - 26mm/23 or 24mm is likey (ECS or H+R or eibach etc) are a few combos that are out there.
Another mod im strongly considering is the superpro ALK/control arm combo. If its anything like a old caster kit i had on a EG civic years ago then + caster is a good thing.

[kaanage]

No intention of lowering the car - so swaybars it is.

You could also upgrade your dampers while keeping your original springs. Hardly anyone here would consider this option but it is far, far better to do this than the common practice of fitting lowering springs (which you've ruled out, thankfully).

Koni sports dampers would give you adjustable rebound damping (easy the front - a bit of a pain at the rear).

Not entirely sure what your bias against Whiteline is - they sell anti-roll bars all over the world and they also have the 'Anti-Lift Kit' if you want extra caster (agreed, the reduced anti-dive is a good thing if increasing front roll stiffness).

[Rxticle]

What about APR sway bar? Super pro lift kit?

[bennjamin]

What about APR sway bar? Super pro lift kit?

I have a superpro kit and 24mm h&r rear swaybar sitting in the garage at home , ready to go :0)