Hid Kits From China

[Bing56]

Will be watching this space with interest!
Hope it works out mate!
They seem to have quite a few HID kits on the website...how do you know which one is for the golf mkV ?

MKVs have H7 globes in both high and low beam lights. Many cars use this type of globe. You just order H7s and then pick the K strength you require. The sellers have a good description on each K globe. Generally the lower the K the brighter and more natual light from the globe. General consensis is 4000k - 6000k is the best unles you are going for the blue/purple look...

[KI11Z]

As tim said, placing HIDZ into an open chamber headlight, be it high beam or low beam will cause a very glarey light as there will no clean cut off of the light! the "K" (Degrees Kelvin) is the colour temperature, not the so much the brightness although they do say that by going with a 8k bulb or higher wont' be as bright as a 6k bulb which is what oem bulbs are.

Extracts from just two easily found websites :

"A HID projector is designed for use with, well, HID lighting. The lense, reflector and light cut-off shields are all designed to work together to work very efficiently with HID lighting and provide the best available output of light. HID projectors when used with HID lighting will have a sharp cutoff
at the top of the beam reducing glare towards oncoming traffic and the HID light will be spread evenly on the ground with virtually no hotspots."

"Installing an HID kit into a halogen headlight results in glare to oncoming traffic and little usable light due to unfocused beam patterns. Probably the only true way to utilize HID lighting is to actually have projectors or reflectors that were made for them."

KELVIN CHART


"What I'm trying to illustrate here is the glow of blue light (or glare) that radiates off 8000K bulbs. This glow breaks out of the beam pattern and blinds oncoming motorists. Also note how small the actual brightness gain is when you go from factory halogen to 8000K HID. Is it even worth your while?"


HID POOR CUT OFF IN AN OPEN CHAMBER


GOOD CUT OFF IN OEM HID PROJECTOR


A PROJECTOR LENS


Sorry if im coming accross rude rude but I cant stand cars with ill-fitted hidz that are just stupidly bright . . . mods have a word if you must . . . tnx

[gpk_gti]

theres nothing wrong with a polite adult discussion.Just keep it not personal,and if the member decides to do this mod,its his problem and not up to us to reprimand him.

[Soundofav6]

Bing, just to know you are not alone, I recently installed them lights in, what alex said is true. They do produce glare no matter that level you point the source, there is no doubt about that.

One time I literally had to kindly ask a grandpa to lower his projctors as they were pointing stright into my rear mirror. I personally can not get more annoyed at Land f**k!ng Rovers and all other 4x4s pointing their HID even their standard light into at my rear mirror, the fact is they have no choice as to their default vehicle height. (excuse my language,moderators delete if necessary.)

My point is there is no "true" way of using HID.. people abuse this system conciously or subconciously. Call me a hypocrate for all I care, but it would not stop me from using them.

The only thing I can offer is to avoid invites to night crusies, preventing abuse from memebers of this friendly forum also keeping a pleasent environment, you may call this respect. When I do have the funds to upgrade my head unit, projectors would definately be a must even if I do have to install new HID kit.

[GermanwithaVdub]

i agree, xenons (oem's included) are so bright that when the road isnt even and you get blinded by them, you (well i do anyway) cant see a thing. most of the time, the adjustment of the bulbs doesnt even matter unless you're cruising on a highway or something like that. its especially bad when the road is bumpy and the beam from the oncoming car hits you in the face and then dips down and hits you in the face again 10 times a second :@ :@ :@

and what makes me even angrier is when people are too stupid to realise that on a crest of a hill, headlights do get in peoples faces and then they have the nerve to flash their highbeam as if you've got yours on. and some of the flashers have xenon bloody lights!! :@

ok... thats my rant for the day... i'm sure im not alone in my sentiments anyway (i do a lot of nightime driving as you might have guessed)

[Bing56]

Re Hids

B---DY HELL !!! That got some replies. I do respect all points of view however do get hot under the collar when people get personal. I love my car and respect other views as long as they are polite. I think its best for this community blogg that we end this now before this gets out of hand. Look forward to our next run. hope its in daylight hehe...

[mikinoz]

Guys, I think that this is as a subjective issue as which chip is best etc etc.

Bing, let us know how you go installing them, as for conjecture on if it is the right or wrong thing to do - there are ADR's and Registration Checks, along with police and RTA that will police people off the road if these are unacceptable.

My opinion is that I would probably upgrade to an OEM kit, but for the price of Crystal Vision, this is an interesting exercise.

[Bing56]

Thanks for the info

Thanks for the info guys. Sound like it's not an argument anyone is winning from either side. I guess no matter what type of bulb is used there will be glare if ill fitted or certain road conditions. I have recieved the lights yesterday and had a
quick look under the bonnet and the light fittings on the car. Not sure if they are an easy swap and fit. I may loose high beam altogether. Will try and fit one side and see how it works and if not happy return to original. Have to find the time though.

[pinzvidz]

One thing you've got to remember here guys... at the end of the day, by law (and that's international, not just ADR) HID or xenon headlights fitted by manufacturers must have auto-levelling, and must have headlamp washers installed. Insurance companies will not warm to vehicles involved in accidents with aftermarket HID kits installed, regardless of whether they're installed in projector style or normal reflector headlamp assemblies.

Other thing too, any consequential damage as a result of failure in the headlamp wiring, CAN-BUS or headlamp module from fitting aftermarket headlamp components will not be covered by warranty. It won't void your whole vehicle warranty though.

Anyways, that said, each to their own... do what you please, it's your vehicle.

[KI11Z]

^^ interesting . . .

[gpk_gti]

Hey Guys!


I have reopened this thread after pm's from members and discussion with Admin.

PLEASE- no personal attacks! If the member so chooses to do WHATEVER to his car ,legal or illegal,ITS HIS CAR!!!!! the rules and regulations about headlights has already been written here and there is no point trying to ram down his throat whats wrong with this mod.HE GETS THE MESSAGE.


This is the final warning from the VWW management team regarding this thread.We will close/delete this thread if it starts to get out of hand again.

Thanks.

[Rod_H]

BOY'S WILL BE BOY'S.
There are more important things in life to deal with than how bright some one's headlights are!

If some one wants to do this or that to there car, it's his damn car. He can burn it if he wants too!
On to many of these forums I read you get these holier than thou type's telling people you can't do this and you can't that...
I better stop now, before I get into trouble...

[ozgriff]

Do you get the adjustable headlight switch if you have the bi-xenons option or not?

[Tim]

I dont think anyone has been too horrible about it. Just trying to offer advice. Thats the point of this place surely. Perhaps the original poster has just taken offense at being advised against something.

If you search google for HID retrofit this is one of the first hits u get. have a read and it explains why some of us are genuinely concerned. I was especially interested in the part about it making the foreground brighter which may reduce your night time vision and also give u the illusion of better lighting. when in fact the beam was not as long.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/Hid/conversions/conversions.html

[VW Convert]

I dont think anyone has been too horrible about it. Just trying to offer advice. Thats the point of this place surely. Perhaps the original poster has just taken offense at being advised against something.

I agree Tim, I reread the whole thread this morning and I can't see anything that I would find offensive about the posts. There will always be disagreement about any subject and I think as long as disagreement is not couched in personal terms there should be no problem.

Perhaps we all need to understand that written comunication is different to voice communication, there is no eye contact, no facial expressions and no voice inflections that can completely alter the context in which something is said. We need to have thick skins and to appeciate that what someone has typed in a post can easily be misinterpreted as a personal attack where none is intended. In short we should be able to disagree on a subject but respect each others views and not be reactive to criticism.

Whilst it is up to each individual to determine what they do to their own vehicle, surely it is not wrong for other forum users to point out that what is being done may be illegal, may be a safety issue and impact other road users or may be detrimental in some other way. I see nothing wrong in that whatsoever.

Cheers

George