Golf GT TSI

[phaeton]

Welcome to VWwA BarneyBoy

Look forward to see pics of your GT TSI

[anarchycamp]

I would have expected better fuel consumption figures than 6.5 /7.1 on freeway driving.....i frequently get 6.5 or less on some relaxed freeway driving in the GTI, i suppose the GT would be a hell of a lot more economical around town.

[BarneyBoy]

I would have expected better fuel consumption figures than 6.5 /7.1 on freeway driving.....i frequently get 6.5 or less on some relaxed freeway driving in the GTI, i suppose the GT would be a hell of a lot more economical around town.

Me too, but it's probably still a bit tight - that economy was on its first 1000km - I drove it from Melbourne to Adelaide. BTW, the city economy is about 7.8 at the moment. Still, I expect both figures will be different by about the 3000km mark.

[gtimk5]

Welcome Barneyboy.
Congratulations on your purchase. Great write up there on your impressions. Economy should improve as it loosens up. Keep us posted on things eh?
Cheers, Andrew

[anarchycamp]

Me too, but it's probably still a bit tight - that economy was on its first 1000km - I drove it from Melbourne to Adelaide. BTW, the city economy is about 7.8 at the moment. Still, I expect both figures will be different by about the 3000km mark.

Yeah i figured around town would be where the difference is really noticeable...saw a while GT this morning, looked really nice!!

[BarneyBoy]

Did anyone see the Car Show piece about the GT on Channel Packer? I've found it over here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSM5SWgJVwc

They dyno'd a DSG GT and saw 121kW AT THE WHEELS!
They figured it was a fluke or a VW 'ring in' press car. So they found a second GT and saw 117kW! We all know you get about 25% - 30% power loss through the drive train, so a figure of about 95kW was the expected amount. Unless VW have got an incredibly efficient drivetrain, that puts the GTs power at around 150kW. Not likely, I know, but how do you explain their figures?

So now there's a conspiracy theory getting around about why VW are under-estimating the GT's power output.

My GT doesn't feel anything like that sort of power, but I'd certainly believe a figure of 135kW or even 140kW. It's definitely slower than a GTi, but not all that much. BTW, the dyno was at Swinburn TAFE, so you wouldn't expect anything dodgy with the equipment or procedures.

I'd love to see a GTi on the same dyno to establish whether VW are uniformly under estimating their products. It would explain why the GTi performs so well against its more powerful competition.

[SoVeReIgN]

Did anyone see the Car Show piece about the GT on Channel Packer?

They dyno'd a DSG GT and saw 121kW AT THE WHEELS!
They figured it was a fluke or a VW 'ring in' press car. So they found a second GT and saw 117kW! We all know you get about 25% - 30% power loss through the drive train, so a figure of about 90kW was the expected amount. Unless VW have got an incredibly efficient drivetrain, that puts the GTs power at around 150-160kW. Not likely, I know, but how do you explain their figures?

So now there's a conspiracy theory getting around about why VW are under-estimating the GT's power output.

My GT doesn't feel anything like that sort of power, but I'd certainly believe a figure of 135kW or even 140kW. It's definitely slower than a GTi, but not all that much. BTW, the dyno was at Swinburn TAFE, so you wouldn't expect anything dodgy with the equipment or procedures.

I'd love to see a GTi on the same dyno to establish whether VW are uniformly under estimating their products. It would explain why the GTi performs so well against its more powerful competition.

A) It was a dyno dynamics dyno, which are known to give higher than normal figures
B) Drivetrain loss for FWD cars is about 15%.

Which explains the 'high' figures.

[Prestige_GTI]

according to the documents ive seen the TSI engine can run upto 22PSI from factory with the two chargers

That is tough!

Awesome car! Even better performance!

[mic]

When to buy GT/GT Sport?

I am thinking of getting a new GT in the next couple of months. Would anyone know when the 08 GT Sport is going to arrive? Should I expect much of a price drop in the GT when that happens?

[phaeton]

I am thinking of getting a new GT in the next couple of months. Would anyone know when the 08 GT Sport is going to arrive? Should I expect much of a price drop in the GT when that happens?

GT & Sportline grades will be dropped from the lineup fullstop.

GT Sport replaces both and is due just before or after Sydney Motor Show in October


BTW I'm a dummie what does At the Wheels mean ?

[GermanwithaVdub]

can anyone say for sure if the my08 gt sport will come with the 125kw diesel engine?

[peedman]

Im pretty sure we will get the diesel version according to the articles ive read off here.

At the wheels means power its getting at the wheels and not at the flywheel. The factory quote of 125kw is at the flywheel so drivetrain losses means that the fwkw is lower when the car's power is measured on a dyno. I think

[GermanwithaVdub]

yup... but vw is notorious for underestimating their power figures... especially on the gti i think. theres groups who have fully tested all their figures, cant remember the sites though sorry off topic

[phaeton]

can anyone say for sure if the my08 gt sport will come with the 125kw diesel engine?

This thread lists all MY08 changes in the Passenger Range and is copied from an official document

http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newforum/upload/showthread.php?t=5853

At the wheels means power its getting at the wheels and not at the flywheel. The factory quote of 125kw is at the flywheel so drivetrain losses means that the fwkw is lower when the car's power is measured on a dyno. I think

Thanks for explanation peedman

[fasti06]

My wifes GT has arrived in port and depending on Patricks will be readt in 1-2 weeks stealership reckons. Review to follow shortly there after!