Picking up new 77tdi Jetta this Friday 25/06/2010

[p1980d]

Hi Everyone,

I am picking my 77tdi Jetta up this Friday!

As I am a total novice i am hoping to get a couple of things clarafied.


1) What is the best way to break in the engine? What are the obvious things I should and should not be doing? I read that freeway driving isn't reccommended? Is there a maximum speed I should not exceed for the first 1000kms?


2) Any particular steps required with the diesal engine and cold mornings?

I did try and do a search in the forums and could not find anything; if you know of any previous posts covering my questions please let me know.



Thanks Heaps!
Pete

[neil]

Hi Pete.

Go to the Diesel section and you will find a sticky on "Running in a diesel"

As for me most of my running in was on the freeway and all I did was adjust the speed constantly.

No problems up this way with winter driving and warming up engines but may require a different
tact down your way , new model diesels should not be any different to petrol engine when
warming up, just keep an eye on the dash for your glow plug lights to light up a bit longer on
very cold days, should be something in your manual about it.

Have not come across many others with the 77TDI on here, you may be the first especially
with the Jetta.

So question for you , Why the 77 TDI.

Neil.

[p1980d]

Thanks Neil!

The main reason for buying the 77tdi was financial. I initially wanted to buy a 103tdi but I had to stick to my budget. I really wanted a VW and we have a kid due this September so the huge boot in the Jetta convinced us to get the 77tdi. We added the comfort pack too.

My wife will be driving the car most of the time. If all things go well we will be buying a passat as our next car, which will be the main family car. The jetta will be the smaller car used by me for getting to work and stuff like that. Being a conservative person I thought this is a good purchase for where we are right now.

Cheers

[anthony]

Post some pictures up of it once you have taken delivery.

We are all waiting to see it...

[jettapilot]

'Running in a diesel' - that's the search that brought me to VWWatercooled!

Yeah, the sticky thread in 'diesels' has all you need to know.

You'll love your Jetta. And maybe you'll be a diesel convert too. I won't be going back to petrol in a hurry. I had to drive a rented one for the past week and hated every kilometre. Had to fill the tank after 5 days. Outrageous!

And welcome to another 'conservative'.

[p1980d]

Thanks for the info guys! The diesel thread has been really helpful! I pick the car up tomorrow (hopefully) and have it booked in for tinted windows and paint protection. Pics to come!

[Lams]

The 77TDI isn't all that bad! I have the older 1.9TDI in a heavier caddy and it is OK for daily use. Does the new engine have DPF?

[p1980d]

Hi Lams, yeah it has DPF!

Out of interest what modifications would people recommend (assuming it wont void my warranty!)

[Brendan_A]

Hi, You should look into getting it Oettinger tuned.

[p1980d]

Ok cool, can someone explain to me the details of upgrading to Oettinger ? ? Or the process ?? In simple terms? What would be the expected performance improvement from 77kw?

Happy to be referred to an existing link!

[Brendan_A]

You will need to find a Oettinger dealer in your state and they can do the flash tune on your Jetta. Power wise it will be 100kw and 310NM, almost the same power spcs of the 103TDI Jetta. Not bad! Have a look at the Oettinger website.

[Buller_Scott]

hey there p1980d, how's it going?

i would keep an eye on your oil temperature reading on your dash [if you've got one, i dont]. usually, when warming up a tdi, it takes a lot longer than a petrol. i have read much literature that says that the average warm up times vary between 7-10 MILES.

once the car is warm, DONT be afraid to thrash the crap out of it- it's VERY good for the engine, and these TDI's are not fine china- they will take hours of abuse without batting an eyelid. many people say that the more you baby the engine, the slower it will feel, later in life.

cooling down- with these VNT turbos it's widely known that you want to cool the car [turbo] down suitably, to allow oil to cool and circulate back around to the turbo, so as to avoid heat soaking the turbo, and thus facilitate greater turbo longevity. after i drive the car, i always allow it to cool down for 2-3 minutes, but many say that even 1 minute is sufficient in order to be doing the right thing by your car.

as for a tune, im sorry- how much are you spending for your actual car? Oettinger is a nice name brand and all, but can you justify $2k for a tune? there are MANY other tuning companies out there who will get similar/ better results, that DONT cost $2k.

people will try to tell you that you HAVE to buy a $2k tune because the tuners in THAT company are the best in the world, and anything that costs, say, $1500 must, because it is better priced, that it must somehow mean that the tuners are not as knowledgeable, not as experienced, and dont know what they're doing.

be wary of that kind of advice- because quite simply, be it a 250 british pound remap switchable box that you get shipped over, a bluefin sent down from qld, or a full blown $2k for a Louis Vuitton style tune/ other brand names, the bottom line is, it is all OFF THE SHELF. people will talk about how one tune is better than another because it costs 20% more, but either way, mate, you are in melbourne. unless you're getting your car dyno tuned at a place like evolve-technik in box hill, then no matter how much you pay- Oettinger can go from $2k to $5k, and their customers will try to tell you that this MUST mean that there's some magical new r&d involved, but it will STILL be OFF THE SHELF.

i live just near you in fitzroy, if you want to get together to have a yarn, i could make a couple of suggestions for subtle, yet good, mods.

as far as tuning goes, though, there's plenty, just google the following:

oettinger
dtuk
viezu
chippeduk
chipexpress
superchips
bluefin
revo technik
giac

send us a pm if you wanna catch up!

[p1980d]

guys I will see what happens, really happy to get a car to start with and work my through any mods overtime

As the 77tdi uses the 7spd dsg ...... wouldn't an increase of kw not be supported by gear box; hence the 6 spd dsg being used in the 103tdi ? I read somewhere that over an extended period of time the 7spd dsg could not handle the power of a 103kw.

[wokwn]

cooling down- with these VNT turbos it's widely known that you want to cool the car [turbo] down suitably, to allow oil to cool and circulate back around to the turbo, so as to avoid heat soaking the turbo, and thus facilitate greater turbo longevity. after i drive the car, i always allow it to cool down for 2-3 minutes, but many say that even 1 minute is sufficient in order to be doing the right thing by your car.

It depends on how anal you want to get. VNT turbos as implemented in VW diesels have an electric run-on pump that continues to pump coolant after the engine is stopped if required to cool the turbo for up to ten minutes. That coupled with the much lower exhaust gas temps of a diesel means that you don't need to idle to cool your turbo and in most cases, you would have driven at normal speed up a residential street after thrashing your car on the main roads anyway.

That said, piece of mind is important so if it makes you feel better, idle away.

[p1980d]

Thanks wokwn, i guess it is horses for courses; coming home via quiet residential streets would not really require the car to idle and cool down but if I am pulling over on a main road i'd probably idle for 2-3 minutes.

All or most of this information is new to me so every little but helps!