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VW504.00/507.00 5W30 (VW approved. NOT meet or exceed!)
I agree with ^^^^
Easiest brands to find seem to be Castrol, Shell, Penrite or Fuchs (but there are others). Watch out for Oz Castrol Edge (it isn't 504/507, unlike the Castrol Edge oils sold in the UK)
2017 MY18 Golf R 7.5 Wolfsburg wagon (boring white) delivered 21 Sep 2017, 2008 Octavia vRS wagon 2.0 TFSI 6M (bright yellow), 2006 T5 Transporter van 2.5 TDI 6M (gone but not forgotten).
See above and also look in the owner's manual. VW came with a new oil specification that supersedes all previous specs with some exemptions of pre 2006 V10TDI and R5 TDI engines without DPF as found in the Touareg and T5 Transporters.
There is a lot of threads if you search for it (a lot of reading) I suggest Fuel and Lubricants section and Diesel section (VW504.00 is also VW507.00).
I'm not saying that you can't use lesser specs oil in your petrol engine but with late model TDI's it would be a big gamble, since to see the affect of the wrong oil you need to wait in some cases even 80,000km it depends from your driving conditions and habits. IMHO I don't think that use something else than VW specs oil is not worth it. Repairs are costly!
When did the 504/507 spec come into being?
If the car was manufacturered before the 504/507 spec was introduced (and was originally spec'd to run 502)?
Why would running the car on oil with 502 spec be bad for it?
I believe 504.00/507.00 was introduced in 2004, whilst 502.00 was introduced in 1997 and updated in 2005.
504/507 is a tougher test because it places lower limits on engine wear whilst reducing the amount of traditional anti-wear additives (SAPS) the oil is allowed to contain. And on top of that, they have long-drain requirements as well. This means that the base oil needs be more "supportive" so it has to be much higher in quality and use alternative (i.e. expensive) additives that won't clog up the catalysts on the FSI/TSI engines and filters on the TDI engines.
So although 502 additive choices are less restrictive, wear limits are higher, so it can be formulated at a lower cost, though quality varies hugely (oils ain't oils). And it isn't really intended for long drain applications, so it's less suitable for cars with newer engine designs and demands.
If Mobil 1 0W-40 only had 502 as its sole approval then it wouldn't be worth its asking price, but of course, it doesn't. In fact it's a very good oil and carries the more robust European OEM approvals (also gets a good rap from the BITOG crowd). However if it's for a relatively new Volkswagen (MY2008, no?) I think Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 would be a more suitable choice for the OP's TSI engine.
And don't worry about the 30 vs. 40 weight rating. For on-road use, modern engines prefer to use a specific grade of oil all year round instead of selecting a grade depending climatic conditions as they were once designed to.
do they sell Mobil 1 ESP Formula 5W-30 at supercheap?
if not where can i get it from and how much will it cost?
From the dealer in 1L or 5L container or your local Mobil oil distributor (probably in 20L container only).
Penrite Enviro+ 5W30 is also approved by VW and you can buy it from Repco and others. It will be much cheaper than Mobil1ESP.
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