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Search Buttons and Manuals
Blah blah blah. Clearly you can't lead a horse to water in your case..... but I'll try again and it's called the search button located in two areas on the screen.[/QUOTE]
Did you have cold shoulder and warm tongue for breakfast today?
I agree that for hardened forum members the search button is king. But many stumble upon this website via google etc and are not very savvy with forum software, procedures or ethics.
I know there are some notes on the opening page but we don't all have the knowledge, patience or tolerance of a maverick (which by the way is defined as an unbranded calf separated from its mother OR as someone who refuses to play by the rules).
Further to that, there are a lot of opinions and statements made on this site that are sometimes conjecture, sometimes contradictory, sometimes not expressed very well, sometimes misleading and sometimes just plain wrong.
Often new posters are looking for quick information and the searches don't point immediately to what they want. VW manuals are pretty good and reasonably well organised but they are just a few verses shorter than the bible and can be a pain at times.
On another tack, it is important to realise that just because a person is smart enough to have bought a Volkswagen doesn't mean that they have more than a very basic knowledge of motor vehicles.
For example, I am sure that when you or I go to buy a new car we have a pretty good idea of what we want. Not so with everybody. They will walk into a VW dealer, having seen in the Courier Mail or their RACQ that a VW has won car of the year, with $50,000 and say what can I buy.
Then they get hit with diesel, petrol, turbocharger, supercharger, TSI, FSI and it goes on while they sit there wide eyed and ask "Does it come in pink?.
My own daughter is a perfect example. The big decisions were reflex silver or silver leaf, was park assist worth it and would she look good in it.
After she bought it we were discussing how low diesel engines revved, especially at cruising speeds and I noticed the blank stare. Next question was "What are revs?". This from a girl who has driven over 300,000 accident, infringement free kilometres and has never owned a car WITHOUT a tachometer. After a few more words she responded "That's what the dial with the big numbers is"
Imagine if she posted to this site "What are revs? I am afraid you may have flamed her worse than Joan of Arc.
So we can't make too many assumptions about posters on the site, their knowledge or their ability to read or understand manuals and instructions.
As the OP stated on this one, a simple "gentle" response with a few suggested search keywords rather than a blunt "use the search buttons" or RTFM may be more appropriate.
As the OP also pointed out, you don't have to respond to his post if you don't want to.
I have posted questions to this site which I am sure you have seen and consider that I should have used the search buttons, or read the manual. For example my manual tells me my RNS510 can read 32Gb SDHC cards. Only in the fine print and disclaimers do I find a note saying "some of the features in this manual MAY NOT YET be available on your vehicle.
Then I read about various firmware upgrades, principally thank you from information you have posted. But in a later post I read that certain firmware is applicable to certain versions/revisions of the RNS510.
Rather than read all the earlier posts, sift through them and try and decide what is right and what is wrong, I posted two questions. Were version A,B and C chronological versions. In other words did B follow A and C follow B or were they just randomly fitted to vehicles?
Secondly anyone got Firmware 2660 working with a version B RNS510.
A search tells me 2660 is only for version C but I have my doubts so I posed the question as there seem to be a lot of people on here with 2660 working that have vehicles up to two years older than mine and whom I could reasonable expect to have earlier RNS510 - if indeed the series is alphabetical and chronological.
Moral of the story. Mav, you have a heap of invaluable knowledge but you remind me of the guy who said "You think I always think I am right but that's where you are wrong".
I think you are a bit like me. Wet Sunday afternoon, Nothing to do. Can't take the car out because I just waxed it and it might get dirty. Think I'll just trawl VWwatercooled and exercise my keyboard.
Please be nice to us and to new posters. We might actually learn something from them.
Actually, we have asked the moderator to put up a new poll.
What would be more dangerous?
(a) Adjudicating a debate between Maverick and Rocket36
(b) Refereeing a Cage fight between the above.
Just joking Mav. We all love your stuff. You can achieve your wishes to declutter the site of unnecessary by educating the newbies rather than by flaming them.
Just donning my Nomex now in anticipation of what is to come.
Blah blah blah. Clearly you can't lead a horse to water in your case..... but I'll try again and it's called the search button located in two areas on the screen.[/QUOTE]
Did you have cold shoulder and warm tongue for breakfast today?
I agree that for hardened forum members the search button is king. But many stumble upon this website via google etc and are not very savvy with forum software, procedures or ethics.
I know there are some notes on the opening page but we don't all have the knowledge, patience or tolerance of a maverick (which by the way is defined as an unbranded calf separated from its mother OR as someone who refuses to play by the rules).
Further to that, there are a lot of opinions and statements made on this site that are sometimes conjecture, sometimes contradictory, sometimes not expressed very well, sometimes misleading and sometimes just plain wrong.
Often new posters are looking for quick information and the searches don't point immediately to what they want. VW manuals are pretty good and reasonably well organised but they are just a few verses shorter than the bible and can be a pain at times.
On another tack, it is important to realise that just because a person is smart enough to have bought a Volkswagen doesn't mean that they have more than a very basic knowledge of motor vehicles.
For example, I am sure that when you or I go to buy a new car we have a pretty good idea of what we want. Not so with everybody. They will walk into a VW dealer, having seen in the Courier Mail or their RACQ that a VW has won car of the year, with $50,000 and say what can I buy.
Then they get hit with diesel, petrol, turbocharger, supercharger, TSI, FSI and it goes on while they sit there wide eyed and ask "Does it come in pink?.
My own daughter is a perfect example. The big decisions were reflex silver or silver leaf, was park assist worth it and would she look good in it.
After she bought it we were discussing how low diesel engines revved, especially at cruising speeds and I noticed the blank stare. Next question was "What are revs?". This from a girl who has driven over 300,000 accident, infringement free kilometres and has never owned a car WITHOUT a tachometer. After a few more words she responded "That's what the dial with the big numbers is"
Imagine if she posted to this site "What are revs? I am afraid you may have flamed her worse than Joan of Arc.
So we can't make too many assumptions about posters on the site, their knowledge or their ability to read or understand manuals and instructions.
As the OP stated on this one, a simple "gentle" response with a few suggested search keywords rather than a blunt "use the search buttons" or RTFM may be more appropriate.
As the OP also pointed out, you don't have to respond to his post if you don't want to.
I have posted questions to this site which I am sure you have seen and consider that I should have used the search buttons, or read the manual. For example my manual tells me my RNS510 can read 32Gb SDHC cards. Only in the fine print and disclaimers do I find a note saying "some of the features in this manual MAY NOT YET be available on your vehicle.
Then I read about various firmware upgrades, principally thank you from information you have posted. But in a later post I read that certain firmware is applicable to certain versions/revisions of the RNS510.
Rather than read all the earlier posts, sift through them and try and decide what is right and what is wrong, I posted two questions. Were version A,B and C chronological versions. In other words did B follow A and C follow B or were they just randomly fitted to vehicles?
Secondly anyone got Firmware 2660 working with a version B RNS510.
A search tells me 2660 is only for version C but I have my doubts so I posed the question as there seem to be a lot of people on here with 2660 working that have vehicles up to two years older than mine and whom I could reasonable expect to have earlier RNS510 - if indeed the series is alphabetical and chronological.
Moral of the story. Mav, you have a heap of invaluable knowledge but you remind me of the guy who said "You think I always think I am right but that's where you are wrong".
I think you are a bit like me. Wet Sunday afternoon, Nothing to do. Can't take the car out because I just waxed it and it might get dirty. Think I'll just trawl VWwatercooled and exercise my keyboard.
Please be nice to us and to new posters. We might actually learn something from them.
Actually, we have asked the moderator to put up a new poll.
What would be more dangerous?
(a) Adjudicating a debate between Maverick and Rocket36
(b) Refereeing a Cage fight between the above.
Just joking Mav. We all love your stuff. You can achieve your wishes to declutter the site of unnecessary by educating the newbies rather than by flaming them.
Just donning my Nomex now in anticipation of what is to come.
faces on you right when you type the text. It is very easy to use it just click on it it's not that hard, see if the other posters will be more kind to you with their answers?
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