Petrol or Diesel

[brackie]

Driving technique

I test drove a Jetta TDI (DSG), and basically had to stomp the pedal to the floor to get the thing to move up a gentle incline. Once it got into the boost range though I didn't notice much difference with the Turbo FSI (except for the noise). I think I read somewhere that both the FSI and TDI are a better match for the manual box.

That's not how to drive a diesel! If you "stomp the pedal" you're wasting fuel and your time. I guess it's a bit like Dirty Harry... "Just squeeze the trigger, Sonny..." Driving diesels is all about torque and feel. Sure, they don't leap off the blocks like an equivalent petrol engined car, but they suffer from turbo lag much less. You get boost in the 1500 to 1750rpm range and then you use the gears to keep it on boost. With a DSG box the ECU does it for you.

[brenno]

We've got both an FSI 6A and a TDI DSG.

I prefer the FSI by a fair margin for city use. The TDI is just too noisy and laggy to drive for stop start stuff. You get over the massive torque hit that the TDI delivers pretty quickly.

The FSI is smoother to drive, and the instantaneous torque delivery is far better for city driving.

If I was going to drive to Canberra tomorrow though, I'd probably choose the TDI.

[brackie]

City driving

Fair call and you would be in the best position to make a comparison. I rarely drive in the city. There's no doubt that the petrol engine would be quicker off the blocks. On my country driving and long journeys the TDI is an absolute joy.

[dilbert_rocks]

There's no doubt that the petrol engine would be quicker off the blocks.

Yes, I was meaning from a standing start, and I was actually quoting the salesman "stomp on it"!

Given that most of my driving is stop/start and signalised intersections, the sluggish takeoff was v.annoying. Plus, we enjoy listening to opera / classical music while driving - hence the concern with cabin noise. I want to test the T FSI again to see how intrusive the turbo noise is when cruising. Is 100km/h in the boost range?

[acdcfan]

diesel hands down mate!!!!

I agree 120%, i

[acdcfan]

diesel hands down mate!!!!

VW, it aint just a car, its a way of life.
I am new here, just signed up
I agree 120%. Three weeks ago I bough my first diesel car 2.0 TDI Golf. Briliant German engineering

[brackie]

Welcome acdc and VW fan!

Nice to have another Western Australian aboard (I'm homesick )

Yes, there are +es and -es for both petrol and diesel. For me there is no argument but then I'm a Diesel Nut.

I agree that the diesel is noisier, I agree it's not instantaneous in its pickup and I agree that it costs more to service. However I still believe it's quiet enough, the torque if you know how to use it more than compensates for the initial tack of take off (9.2sec to 100kph ain't bad by any estimation!) and in the long run it will be cheaper to service than a petrol equivalent. It's all about choice.

[acdcfan]

[QUOTE=brackie]Nice to have another Western Australian aboard (I'm homesick )

Found out today about this thread. I think, haven't read all of it yet, you can find thing that you may not know about new Golf diesel

[acdcfan]

[quote=brackie]Nice to have another Western Australian aboard (I'm homesick )QUOTE]

How many West Australians is ther in this forums ?
And how do you get picture aginst your name ?
I have gone and reduced one I added to 80x80pixels and still not comming up?

[brackie]

Sandgroper count

[How many West Australians is ther in this forums ?

6

And how do you get picture aginst your name ?

Look in "User Tips" and all will be explained (It's called an Avatar.)

I have gone and reduced one I added to 80x80pixels and still not comming up?

[acdcfan]

6



Look in "User Tips" and all will be explained (It's called an Avatar.)

it worked. thanks Brackie

[acdcfan]

6

It looks like Westerners are in huge monority here, but this is gettin away from the topic.

[acdcfan]

Hi Denilu,

i am the happy owner of a TDI Jetta, I drive around the city but regularly drive in the bush and this is obviously where the diesel comes into its own, but I must say that being somewhat lead footed and still getting 750K + in he city whilst getting 990+ on the highway does it for me, and I stll get performance when I push the peddle. I have about 5k+ on the clock at the moment and from what I understand the fuel consumption will only improve as the engine beds down.

How fast do you need go whilst still saving fuel and being kind to the planet,as has been previusly said go the diesel!!

good luck

ferg

All I do is make sure i change gears on about 2000 RPM and manage to use around 5.7-6.0L/100 town driving but on the freeway i managed 4.6L/100km doing about 100kph in sixth gear.That is around 1700-1800RPM. Ihave GOLF 2.0 TDI 2007 model not even a month old but alread done 1500km.For the first week I just wanted ti drive it
In the mornings whane engine is cold i don't push it at all but slow accelaration until engine warms up that revert to above gear change. recently ( last Wednesday) i filled up and travelled nearly 200 km before nedle moved to half of a frist quater of a tank (( deos it make sence ) So all in all i have no regrets whatsoever buying this little pice of German egnineering

[brackie]

Speedo and rpm

There are a number of posts regarding the speedo error in Mk5s. My mrs checked our TDI with a hand-held navigator borrowed from gtimk5 and confirmed that it's about 10kph "fast" @ 100kph. The tacho reads 2000rpm @110kph on the speedo.

I do very little city driving but consistently get under 5L/100km of country driving.

Important to get the oil hot asap before stressing the engine when running in.

[acdcfan]

speedo

[QUOTE=brackie]There are a number of posts regarding the speedo error in Mk5s. My mrs checked our TDI with a hand-held navigator borrowed from gtimk5 and confirmed that it's about 10kph "fast" @ 100kph. The tacho reads 2000rpm @110kph on the speedo.QUOTE]


So if I am sitting on 100kph I am actualy doing 110
Who can check speedo because this is very dangerous in respect to your $$$ in your pocket and demerit pionts ?