What type of oil??

[weiero]

What is the best type of oil to use in my Mark 5 GTi??

[brentondm]

VW 504.00 / 507.00

my mechanic uses fuchs

[kryten2001]

I like Mobil 1 0w40.

Expensive though.

[gerhard]

Penrite HPR5 or Penrite Enviro+ 5w-30.

[Transporter]

What is the best type of oil to use in my Mark 5 GTi??

Penrite Enviro+5W30, Mobil1ESP 5W30 or go to the dealer to get genuine VW oil.
Oils are cheap, catalytic converters and anti-pollution devices aren't.

[anthony_VWJET]

Any users of Castrol Edge?

[9 iron]

oil

Any users of Castrol Edge?

yeah... 0W 40 as used by my mechanic in mkv gti.. just make sure they dont put 1.4ltrs more than what they should, like this guy did - ... real happy Jan!!

anyway, expensive, but meant to be good! other opinions?

[weiero]

Ok i will head down to VW tomorrow and buy some geniune oil. Well for my first change anyway.

[gregozedobe]

Any users of Castrol Edge?

IIRC none of the several Castrol Edges sold in Oz have VW 504/507 approval (or compliance or "meets the standard") .

In Europe some are - and are obviously different oils, even if they have the same marketing name and viscosity rating (eg 5-30W) as here.

For VAG cars the official VW approval numbers are the thing to look for, not the viscosity or marketing name or "full synthetic" or anything else.

[brad]

IIRC none of the several Castrol Edges sold in Oz have VW 504/507 approval (or compliance or "meets the standard") .

Edge (5w-30 & 0w-40) sold in Australia is 502.00. According to the owners manual, this is fine for a GTI on fixed service intervals. 504.00 is only an absolute requirement if on the variable service regime.

To the OP:
I supplied Castrol Edge Sport 5w-30 (502.00 approved) at the 15,000km service and had an immediate & quantifiable improvement in fuel economy (new oil/slipperier oil/ECU software update - who knows?).

At my 30,000km service the dealer was offering 504.00 approved Valvoline for about $70 so I went with that and kept the bottle of Shell Helix Ultra-something that I'd bought to do the service on the shelf at home.

[Big Yellow]

castrol edge sport 5w-30 is the vw502.00 approved and is fine to use here.

504.00 is the long life service requirement which we do not use here so is not necassary.

[brentondm]

castrol edge sport 5w-30 is the vw502.00 approved and is fine to use here.

504.00 is the long life service requirement which we do not use here so is not necassary.

i know it might not be necessary for your petrol GTI, but it may be read the wrong way for all Mkv vehicles which needs to be stated, not an attack against your statement or against you, I'd like people to have clear information on what decisions they're making if they put the wrong oil in.

With the introduction of new emission limits for passenger cars in 2005 requiring the fitment of exhaust gas after-treatment devices, Volkswagen have upgraded their LongLife specifications to 504 00 for petrol and 507 00 for diesel. LongLife oils meeting 504 00/507 00 are now SAE 5W-30 viscosity. Apart from a few exceptions*, these new specifications replace the earlier 503 00/506 00/506 01 specifications. Oils meeting the new specifications are designed to work with the latest emissions control equipment, such as diesel particulate filters (DPF). Use of oil which only meets earlier LongLife specifications can halve the life of a DPF.

Important note
In order to maximise the life of the DPF, all DPF equipped Volkswagen vehicles (except pre 2006 R5 and V10 engines) must use an engine oil meeting the new 507 00 specification even when on Time and Distance servicing regime.

link: http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/assets/c..._servicing.pdf

as Transporter said.... anti-pollution devices aren't cheap.

[brad]

i know it might not be necessary for your petrol GTI, but it may be read the wrong way for all Mkv vehicles which needs to be stated, not an attack against your statement or against you, I'd like people to have clear information on what decisions they're making if they put the wrong oil in..

Brenton
The whole thread has been about petrol engines & the petrol engine spec oils 502 or 504. Neither of these specs are applicable to diesels and nobody was discussing diesels.

If people bothered to read their owners manual properly (or even open & skim), we wouldn't even need these threads.

[gregozedobe]

castrol edge sport 5w-30 is the vw502.00 approved and is fine to use here.

504.00 is the long life service requirement which we do not use here so is not necassary.

In the owner's manual for my 2008 Octavia vRS (BWA engine, same as in later Golf V GTIs) it lists the following oils for petrol engines with fixed service intervals (QGO and QG2):

VW 501.01, VW 502.00, VW 504.00, (and in exceptional cases ACEA A2 or A3).

It is interesting that my Octy was delivered set up for flexible service intervals (QG1), which lists VW 503.00 or VW 504.00 oils for petrol engines.

I prefer to use VW 504/507 in my BWA engine, but everyone should make up their own mind what oil they wish to use in their VW. At least this thread demonstrates that some VW owners actually do read their owner's manual

I recommend VW 504/507 oil in almost all cases as it keeps things simple (it suits nearly all current VAG engines, both petrol and diesel) and therefore helps some people avoid confusion.

[brad]

It is interesting that my Octy was delivered set up for flexible service intervals (QG1), which lists VW 503.00 or VW 504.00 oils for petrol engines.

Mine was set for QG1 Variable too. Seemed odd as VW doesn't do variable in Australia.

I left it on variable until the service was due and at 15,000km it was showing 16,500km remaining to next service. I'm not really sure I could come to terms with doing 31,500km between services.

I can understand your reasoning for recomending 504/507 from a KISS point of view but the QA guy in me keeps prattling on about "fitness for purpose" and "total cost of ownership". The cheapest I've seen any VW504/507 is $60, whereas the cheapest 502 is $30. I know the $30 oil is a quality product and complies with VWs service requirements, so why not save $30 & use the money elsewhere?

Also, a lot of people are put off owning Euro cars because they perceive servicing costs to be excessive, maybe if people knew they could do it cheaper then a few more might be attracted to the brand?

On a service related note, I was at my dealers yesterday afternoon and noticed them advertising pollen filter replacements for Holdens @ $75 supplied & fitted. Octavia is $15 + how much to fit? 15mins work max? = $30