VOA recall 16,000 VW due to DSG fault

[brentondm]

I'm not scared of my DSG gearbox, but nothing is as frightening as using the word "loose" when the correct word is "lose"........

yeah pretty tired and was on the phone at the time, back to work

[team_v]

None of this new-fangled scary stuff for me!
I'll just stick to changing my own gears, thank you.

I agree.
It's one of the reasons i try to limit the extra technology in the car as you can gurantee it will break and is going to cost you more.

I realise this isn't an option for some people as they can only drive Auto's but it even hapens for sunroof's and rain/light sensing equipment.

[Dragonzdk]

I suppose the technology haters would still have us listening to 45's and watching reel 2 reel movies, flying in propellor airplanes, spraying cfc's.....

come on...this is a good QC process that has identified the fault and they are taking as much preventative action as they can to address it as soon as possible. That's pretty good in my book.

My `06 DSG has done 70,000 kms without a hitch.... and I have been running a stage 2+ for the last 10,000 kms. It's the smoothest and fastest transmission I've ever had and would recommend it in an instant.

And NO I don't work for VW but YES i do love my car.

...another flaming bandwagon beat up (sorry for the pun)

smile

[VW Convert]

Love it - a wire that is crimped incorrectly! - The fix is they will reflash the module. Next time someone runs in to me i'll get the panel beater to reload the software, that will fix it!

My reading of that would be that instead of throwing the transmission into neutral if it senses overheating, it will simply send a transmission malfunction warning to the MFD enabling the car to be driven to a safe place to stop.

I agree.
It's one of the reasons i try to limit the extra technology in the car as you can gurantee it will break and is going to cost you more.

Extending that logic begs the question, why are you driving a VW, a car that is at the forefront of automotive technology? I don't see including technology in a car as a guarantee that it will break.

I realise this isn't an option for some people as they can only drive Auto's but it even hapens for sunroof's and rain/light sensing equipment.

Many of us drive autos as a matter of choice not because we are unable to drive a manual. After countless years of driving manuals (including multi range truck transmissions of up to 20 speeds) it was my conscious choice to drive autos. And I've never had a problem with sunroof and rain/light sensing equipment.

Cheers

George

[team_v]

Extending that logic begs the question, why are you driving a VW, a car that is at the forefront of automotive technology? I don't see including technology in a car as a guarantee that it will break.



Many of us drive autos as a matter of choice not because we are unable to drive a manual. After countless years of driving manuals (including multi range truck transmissions of up to 20 speeds) it was my conscious choice to drive autos. And I've never had a problem with sunroof and rain/light sensing equipment.

Cheers

George

The car i am getting won't have any of the "new technology extras" on it i.e. lane assist, adaptive cruise control etc as i don't believe they have been properly tested and i don't like the idea of taking away human control from a vehicle that much.
Whilst i am getting a VW, i am getting a car with technology that has been around for a while and has been tested such as the 2L TSI engine.
That i also the reason i didn't go out and buy the car as soon as it was released, so I could find out about the problems that people are having with their current technology in the car.

I realise that driving auto is also a choice, i was just giving an example why some people may go for the auto/DSG option.
I will never own an automatic car but that is just me, as long as people are willing to drive and own auto cars and are willing to use new technology then it should become better through QC and user issues being fixed.

Again, this is just my opinion and i realise that new technologies have to be taken up and tested by the public in order for them to advance and become more useable.

[Maverick]

total loss of drivetrain power output to the ground when:

crossing a 4 lane intersection ?
crossing a train crossing ?
merging onto a 110 KM/h freeway in front of a truck because you always do it because your car is capable every other day.

lets not forget that something like this would possibly freak out a large number of people and when put into this scenario they would not know what has happend or what to do, if you're driving up a carpark ramp and suddenly you loose forward drive and start rolling back, some people are not designed to think in these scenarios, they freeze and freak out.

some people are not capable of thinking logically and controlling their emotions in scenarios like this, think hysterics.

Maybe this is good because it gets people off the road who clearly shouldn't have a drivers license.

If drivers can't handle sudden events "out of the ordinary" I suggest they stay at home or catch public transport because what's going to occur if they blow a tyre or a car appears out of nowhere or a child runs out on the road?

I'd rather share the road with drivers that can think not freeze or panic at the slightest "problem". And if you're driving around at 110% and not leaving any room for error/problems you probably should reconsider your driving style.

[Maverick]

The car i am getting won't have any of the "new technology extras" on it i.e. lane assist, adaptive cruise control etc as i don't believe they have been properly tested and i don't like the idea of taking away human control from a vehicle that much.

What are your views on ABS, ESP and so forth? These all take away human control yet we wouldn't consider a car without them now and they're proven to remove the human factor and save lives.

I realise that driving auto is also a choice, i was just giving an example why some people may go for the auto/DSG option.
I will never own an automatic car but that is just me, as long as people are willing to drive and own auto cars and are willing to use new technology then it should become better through QC and user issues being fixed.

Manuals are on the way out, you're assuming that manuals will always be available as an option. I'd put money on them being all but gone (except on some sport orientated models) within 10-15 years.

[VW Convert]

The car i am getting won't have any of the "new technology extras" on it i.e. lane assist, adaptive cruise control etc as i don't believe they have been properly tested and i don't like the idea of taking away human control from a vehicle that much.
Whilst i am getting a VW, i am getting a car with technology that has been around for a while and has been tested such as the 2L TSI engine.
That i also the reason i didn't go out and buy the car as soon as it was released, so I could find out about the problems that people are having with their current technology in the car.

I understand what you are saying but the DSG is hardly "new technology extras", it has been around since about 2004, which is probably as long as the 2L TSI engine has been around. (I may stand corrected on that point)

It is also interesting to note that now that VAG has paved the way, the following manufacturers are either producing or developing their own DSG transmissions. BMW, Ferrari, Fiat, Ford, GM, Honda, Hyundai, Mercedes Benz, Mitsubishi, Nissan and Chrysler and Volvo are lined up to buy a DSG being developed by Getrag.

I will never own an automatic car but that is just me

I can remember saying that many years ago! LOL

as long as people are willing to drive and own auto cars and are willing to use new technology then it should become better through QC and user issues being fixed.

Again, this is just my opinion and i realise that new technologies have to be taken up and tested by the public in order for them to advance and become more useable.

The question is, how much testing is necessary? I don't know how many DSG transmissions VAG have produced, my understanding is that they passed the one million mark in 2007. When does "new technology" become the norm? Seems to me that DSG is becoming the norm and will supersede conventional autos in the relatively short term.

Getting back to the OP, I hardly see this as being cause for sleepless nights, the occurences of this issue are miniscule in relation to the total production and the response is designed to ensure that any vehicle that MAY possibly be affected will be rectified. In my experience, such recalls often cover vehicles where no problem actually exists.


Cheers

George

[cube_3]

Our Jetta's are Mexican built. VW has had their factories in Mexico for 40 odd years, you don't think they'd have their quality issues down pat by now?

Our Jetta's may have been but not the golfs. The USA are pretty strict for reporting Recalls and I have seen quite a few reported across the VW range over the last 8 years or so, but mainly applying to the US market only. Main reasons, besides a different factory build compared to the rest of the world, were that certain components e.g. brakes , were sourced from local US companies and some of these had faults. There are other differences e.g. the Golfs / Rabbits use a 2.5 litre engine and not the FSI etc.

[gregozedobe]

A cynic (who, me ?) might also hold the opinion that the yanks have a reputation for being more litigious than other folk, consequently VW USA watch their Ps and Qs for recalls a bit more carefully than VW in other countries.