Miltek or Haldex Gen 2?

[Nathan_B]

Just feeling the mod bug..

What would one do?

Haldex Gen 2 for handling duties?

or

Miltek (non res) for choir practise?

(ordered a whiteline rear sway bar last week!)

Cheers, Nath

[Treza360]

Haldex. The R32 sounds sweet already stock and flapper mod. Improving the sound is nice but not necessarily a necessity.
However handling improvements are. Go the Haldex (I take it that you're looking at G-rigs for sale threads).
Cheers,
Trent

[gareth_oau]

I'm the opposite Trez,

you will hear that glorious milltek sound every minute you drive it. you will only get the haldex benefit when you cane it

[G-rig]

I'm the opposite Trez,

you will hear that glorious milltek sound every minute you drive it. you will only get the haldex benefit when you cane it

The stock exhaust is already glorious (but a bit quiet).

I vote Haldex . You can feel it as soon as you drive around a corner or roundabout, you don't need to be caining it but helps to put the power down and these cars understeer cause of the heavy donk. You can only hear the exhaust when you're caining it too .

Anyway no reason you can't get both, depends if you want to pay more for the haldex later (how much are they new?) but fwiw the order I put them on was Haldex first. Coilovers, sways, haldex and lightweight wheels are the best mods for R32!

[gareth_oau]

i note 7 so far have voted for the Haldex.

Apart from you G-rig, I wonder how many of those 7 have upgraded the haldex and how many have after-market exhausts of some sort?

[bazzle]

I'm the opposite Trez,

you will hear that glorious milltek sound every minute you drive it. you will only get the haldex benefit when you cane it

x2

Bazzle

[dainese]

I'm the opposite Trez,

you will hear that glorious milltek sound every minute you drive it. you will only get the haldex benefit when you cane it

+1

And you should free up some reving willingness as well, with the milltek

[G-rig]

I think the sound is fairly deceptive, it sounds faster but hard to know without a dyno before and after.

Still a glorious sound though but not really a performance mod.

[dainese]

I think the sound is fairly deceptive, it sounds faster but hard to know without a dyno before and after.

Still a glorious sound though but not really a performance mod.

i know what you mean...

BUT...

you know, when you drive a car, you become accustomed to its characteristics- how it revs, how it pulls, how it sounds.

when I fitted my B&B, I wasn't expecting anything, but I did.

it revved freer, and it pulled more urgently. AND the sound!

I don't think many people will claim wild power gains with an exhaust upgrade on an R32, but I am suyre there is some difference.

Just looking at my standard unit and the kink it has before the muffler, must mean something. and add to that the supposed weight difference.

[GoLfMan]

mate I'd go the Haldex

Its not like the R32 is short of sweet sounds already!

[G-rig]

i know what you mean...

BUT...

you know, when you drive a car, you become accustomed to its characteristics- how it revs, how it pulls, how it sounds.

when I fitted my B&B, I wasn't expecting anything, but I did.

it revved freer, and it pulled more urgently. AND the sound!

I don't think many people will claim wild power gains with an exhaust upgrade on an R32, but I am suyre there is some difference.

Just looking at my standard unit and the kink it has before the muffler, must mean something. and add to that the supposed weight difference.

I'm not sure about the MK4 R32 exhasut but it sounds very heavy, so most of the performance gains are probably due to the weight savings.

I did like the sound of my milltek resonated and would buy the same on again. But when the engine is cold you get more clunk sounds though it, could just be something to do with the headers that changed the sound for me.

The Haldex is sold anyway but i can feel the difference without it and the car isn't as planted on the road mostly acellerating out of corners and the ESP light comes on a bit more as well as you dont feel as much power going to the back. Would buy that again possibly but neither are really essential ..

Anyway no reason why he can't get both mods eventually.

[Treza360]

I'm not sure about the MK4 R32 exhasut but it sounds very heavy, so most of the performance gains are probably due to the weight savings.

I can vouch for the changes that the B&B/APR exhaust brings on the MkIV. Not only is the weight loss significant but as dainese said performance gains are noticeable. The stock exhaust must be reasonably restrictive as the ability of the car to rev changes quite significantly. It gains rpm much more freely and quickly. It's great.
Cheers,
Trent

[G-rig]

I can vouch for the changes that the B&B/APR exhaust brings on the MkIV. Not only is the weight loss significant but as dainese said performance gains are noticeable. The stock exhaust must be reasonably restrictive as the ability of the car to rev changes quite significantly. It gains rpm much more freely and quickly. It's great.
Cheers,
Trent

Seems a bit different to the mk5 after market exhaust situation then, as power losses/gains are pretty much negligible as i understand.. (I think the OP's is a MK5).

Ps. One thing I've noticed going back to the stock exhaust is how quiet it is.. which goes to show the Milltek resonated isn't quiet like stock as some US members say, as it still has a deeper note and different sound. It's pretty much the right balance without being intrusive or obnoxious.

With both exhausts they sound a lot different from inside the car as to what other people get to hear..

[Yevvy]

haldex ftw!!

[Treza360]

With both exhausts they sound a lot different from inside the car as to what other people get to hear..

Yeah that's for sure. It's almost worth letting other people drive the car just to hear you car from the outside. Although nice enclosed carparks or CBD streets with lots of tall buildings for the sound to reverb off are always good (highly antisocial behaviour though).
Cheers,
Trent