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  • #16
    i have my tdi flashed by oettinger. well worth it. the extra cash pays for the piece of mind that All Oettinger software is covered by an extensive 12 month, engine / drivetrain / breakdown warranty, and you can extend this to a possible 3 year coverage on a new vehicles

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    • #17
      I own a Polo GTI which has an APR chip, blow-off valve, Seat intake hose and BMC air filter. The dealers know about all these mods and I am going in for warranty work next week (o2 sensor replaced) at Gold Coast VW, and i'm certainly not on good terms with the guys there. I told them that they tried to rip me off so I bought my car 2nd hand elsewhere. What i'm getting at is people worry way too much about dealers 'red flagging' your car. It's only if the modification is the cause of the fault that that affected part/s are not covered.

      Sorry to be honest but no your Jetta is not 'great' as is (performance wise, i've driven one), you don't know what great is until your car has been chipped. VW engineers designed the cars to pass strict goverment regulations complying with safety and emissions, and to fit in-line (relativity) with other available VW models. All cars are 'held back' so to speak', so don't start with the "that's how it was meant to be from VW".

      Seriously, if you are umm-ing and ahh-ing about a chip, head to your nearest APR dealer and get a 6-hour free trial of the Oettinger chip. I promise you'll never look back!
      Last edited by RhysQ; 02-03-2009, 05:02 PM.

      2010 Reflex Silver MK6 Golf GTI
      Sunroof - MDI - Superchip - 19" VMR V710 - Kuhmo Ecsta SPT KU31 - VW Racing Panel Filter

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      • #18
        Originally posted by [-Polo GTI-] View Post
        I own a Polo GTI which has an APR chip, blow-off valve, Seat intake hose and BMC air filter. The dealers know about all these mods and I am going in for warranty work next week (o2 sensor replaced) at Gold Coast VW, and i'm certainly not on good terms with the guys there. I told them that they tried to rip me off so I bought my car 2nd hand elsewhere. What i'm getting at is people worry way too much about dealers 'red flagging' your car. It's only if the modification is the cause of the fault that that affected part/s are not covered.

        Sorry to be honest but no your Jetta is not 'great' as is (performance wise, i've driven one), you don't know what great is until your car has been chipped. VW engineers designed the cars to pass strict goverment regulations complying with safety and emissions, and to fit in-line (relativity) with other available VW models. All cars are 'held back' so to speak', so don't start with the "that's how it was meant to be from VW".

        Seriously, if you are umm-ing and ahh-ing about a chip, head to your nearest APR dealer and get a 6-hour free trial of the Oettinger chip. I promise you'll never look back!
        Ok, so you see the chip as a quick fix to increase the performance in your "held back car".
        That should be suggested to every carmaker – lets make only one engine and put different chips in them. That is a stroke of genius!
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Transporter View Post
          Ok, so you see the chip as a quick fix to increase the performance in your "held back car".
          That should be suggested to every carmaker – lets make only one engine and put different chips in them. That is a stroke of genius!
          That method has worked for many car manufacturers in certain models, especially 'update' models or variations. Would not be a viable option for one engine in all models in the range, that's quite a dumb thing to say really seeing as significant variations in bhp and torque are a necessity when moving 4x4's compared to small hatchbacks, along with the running gear used. As an example of this method however, most recently, the Polo GTI/Polo GTI Cup Edition; a simple remap and it's up from 150bhp to 180bhp.

          What I am getting at is the certain car has to fit in line with the other available models of that brand... AKA 'product placement'. No point making a base model Jetta TDI faster than the famous Golf GTI.... and selling the Jetta for less. Thats just VW shooting themselves in the foot. Chipping the car however, is out of VW's hands and enables the car to perform to what I believe to be a safe potential. Recognised tuning companys ensure the re-mapped (chipped) cars still run safely within their boost parameters and cause no errors on the ECU/damage the car.

          Finally, yes, a chip is a quick fix to increase the performance in my, and others, 'held back' cars.

          Rhys
          Last edited by RhysQ; 02-03-2009, 09:36 PM.

          2010 Reflex Silver MK6 Golf GTI
          Sunroof - MDI - Superchip - 19" VMR V710 - Kuhmo Ecsta SPT KU31 - VW Racing Panel Filter

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          • #20
            OK, let's move on for here.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by [-Polo GTI-] View Post
              That method has worked for many car manufacturers in certain models, especially 'update' models or variations. Would not be a viable option for one engine in all models in the range, that's quite a dumb thing to say really seeing as significant variations in bhp and torque are a necessity when moving 4x4's compared to small hatchbacks, along with the running gear used. As an example of this method however, most recently, the Polo GTI/Polo GTI Cup Edition; a simple remap and it's up from 150bhp to 180bhp.

              What I am getting at is the certain car has to fit in line with the other available models of that brand... AKA 'product placement'. No point making a base model Jetta TDI faster than the famous Golf GTI.... and selling the Jetta for less. Thats just VW shooting themselves in the foot. Chipping the car however, is out of VW's hands and enables the car to perform to what I believe to be a safe potential. Recognised tuning companys ensure the re-mapped (chipped) cars still run safely within their boost parameters and cause no errors on the ECU/damage the car.

              Finally, yes, a chip is a quick fix to increase the performance in my, and others, 'held back' cars.

              Rhys
              When the power is increased on the same engine offered by the car manufacturer by changes in ECU than some other components are upgraded too like pistons, strengthened crank shaft and connecting rods, changes to cylinder head, cylinder head gasket, changes to cooling system (more power = more heath), clutch, brakes etc... to assure the safety and optimum life of the engine and other drive train components.
              To do proper power upgrade after you bought a car could be more expensive than buying car with more power from a car manufacturer.
              You can do whatever you like with your car it is not my business but:
              In case of serious accident I rather seat in a performance car which was build by car manufacturer rather than a car modified by “reputable aftermarket tuning company”.
              It is always safer to buy properly build car and not “a quick fix”.
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              • #22
                Originally posted by Transporter View Post
                I agree too, keep it as is.
                Why some people think that they know better than VW engineers? They designed the car from the scratch.
                The half mechanic at the dealer will always find out that the car was tempered with should there be any need for it.
                Couldn't agree more with both you and Anthony.. So that's what I will be doing! At the end of the day that's the way the car was supposed to be made and that's how it should be kept.

                Even though I've decided against modding, I appreciate all your advice
                2002 Volkswagen Bora V5 - 2007 Mazda 3 GT - 1998 Ford Contour Sport - 2010 Volkswagen Jetta 2.0T - 2013 Volkswagen Passat 130TDI - 2015 Ford Escape 1.5 - 2016 Subaru WRX - 2018 Volkswagen Golf R Wolfsburg Wagon

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by maca View Post
                  WOW i'm bookmarking that site.. It seems to be more power than Oettinger at a much lower price... Seems too good to be true lol.
                  Superchips is the Australian outlet and you can but the Bluefin at the moment for $990. I know the WA guy and have driven a before and after. It's a different car, with the main difference being the elimination of the turbo lag. Superchips are also the tuners for VW Racing in the UK.
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                  • #24
                    Thought i'd revive my good ol' Diesel Upgrade thread to tell yous that I took the plunge today

                    Got it Oettingere'd and is now pushing 125kw and 380nm torque! Loving it more and more every minute
                    2002 Volkswagen Bora V5 - 2007 Mazda 3 GT - 1998 Ford Contour Sport - 2010 Volkswagen Jetta 2.0T - 2013 Volkswagen Passat 130TDI - 2015 Ford Escape 1.5 - 2016 Subaru WRX - 2018 Volkswagen Golf R Wolfsburg Wagon

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                    • #25
                      here we go again

                      I got my bluefin $755 delivered and i love it
                      2005 MkV Golf 2.0TDi 103 - DSG - Heated Leather - Tint - Audi 17" - Lowered - Bluefin Tune.
                      2016 MkVII Golf 2.0TDi 110 - Wagon. Fully Optioned. Lowered on Eibachs. RS3 Black 18s. Mk8 Head Unit. VCDS Tweaks - Bluefin Tune

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sage View Post
                        here we go again

                        I got my bluefin $755 delivered and i love it
                        LOL this isn't a chip war.. Just thought I'd let you know what I decided to go with considering I started this thread agess ago
                        2002 Volkswagen Bora V5 - 2007 Mazda 3 GT - 1998 Ford Contour Sport - 2010 Volkswagen Jetta 2.0T - 2013 Volkswagen Passat 130TDI - 2015 Ford Escape 1.5 - 2016 Subaru WRX - 2018 Volkswagen Golf R Wolfsburg Wagon

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