Golf V FSI or Golf VI TSI

[mario speedwagen]

Hi all,

I'm just after a few opinions as I'm really struggling to figure it out myself.

I'm would like to trade in my 2004 Mazda3 SP23 for a new VW, but i'm not really sure which one. I don't know whether to wait for the new golf VI with the 118kw TSi engine or to try and snag a runout deal on a mark V FSI engine.

At the moment i'm leaning towards the Mark V, purely due to the fact that it is a straight petrol engine without the twincharger and thus it should be more reliable and cheaper to service and repair should things go pear shaped. Also most of the bugs should have been ironed out and there shouldn't be any teething problems like when a new model is released.

On the other hand the golf 6 has been built to be quiet and looks more refined, which is what's turning me off the SP23 in the first place, plus I don't have to fork out any extra cash for an ipod adapter (as stupid as it sounds) and it's quicker.

I've test driven the mark V and found it to be a little more fun the my SP either way I should be in front. Just not sure which way.

Also is there anything else I should consider?

Many thanks for your contributions.

-M

[tdi guy]

golf vi...

If buying now, I would get the VI TSI (others might prefer the TDI, of course...).

Objectively, given the VI is an upgrade of the V, I would expect the V is not a 'better' car in any respect (unless you prefer the styling of the V), and the VI is supposedly better built (in Germany) and 'feels' better (quieter, with nicer materials used in the interior).

Resale for the VI would be a few grand higher, too (unless it suddenly turns into a 'lemon'), so if you are getting a V you should haggle strongly on price...

TG

[KWICKS]

Are you considering any alternatives? What is your budget? I've not driven one but I'm thinking the Citroen C4 VTS with leather at $29990 drive away is a bargain if you can live with 3 doors. Will outperform either of the Golf's you have listed, but may not be as refined given it's sporting character.

The SP23 was a nice new car, and there is a new one sooner rather than later? Not interested?

Any way, of the Golf's, I would expect you to have to fork out over $5k more for the MkVI than the MkV, is that OK? If so I'd go the MkVI as it will just look so much fresher for longer in the driveway.

[mario speedwagen]

Thanks for the replies guys,

The SP23 was a new car which I got with a family discount (My uncle used to work for mazda so I got it for 26K on the road). He doesn't work for mazda anymore so goodbye discount. Plus I don't like the look of the new one, it's too smiley for my liking.

Also another reason VW is my sights is because I am able to get a discount through their professional program or whatever it is called. CA's and CPA's are (or at least they were when my dad bought my mum her jetta) able to get a discount of basically the on road costs, I hope it is still the same. My mothers jetta worked out to be basically RRP + metallic paint. When I priced a golf at the same time it was RRP + paint after discount.

KWICKS, I might just have a look at the c4 vts though, although if top gear is to be believed it will start to disintegrate as soon as i leave the showroom.

Thanks.

[anthony]

I would stick to VW.
A collegue has the Citroen,and it is a lemon.
I feel that the Golf 2.O FSI is well proven and bullet proof.
I have that motor in my Jetta,and find it very classy...very smooth,quiet,economical,and powerful enough.
I would highly reccomend it.

[anthony_VWJET]

I would stick to VW.
A collegue has the Citroen,and it is a lemon.
I feel that the Golf 2.O FSI is well proven and bullet proof.
I have that motor in my Jetta,and find it very classy...very smooth,quiet,economical,and powerful enough.
I would highly reccomend it.

I second that..

[gregozedobe]

If the 118Kw TSI motor is the same one as in the current Skoda Octavia (1.8 turbo petrol, 118Kw, max torque at 1,500rpm with timing chain not rubber belt), then it would be way better than the 2.0 FSI NA motor in the Golf V.

My suggestion is (as always), test drive the contenders, then choose the one you like best at the price you are prepared to pay.

Everyone has their own preferences and priorities, so what we like may not be best for you.

[tdi guy]

10% discount?

Thanks for the replies guys,

Also another reason VW is my sights is because I am able to get a discount through their professional program or whatever it is called. CA's and CPA's are (or at least they were when my dad bought my mum her jetta) able to get a discount of basically the on road costs, I hope it is still the same.

I bought my TSI last year and the 'standard' discount (professional program) worked out to be 10% of the 'standard vehicle' RRP (not including GST or options), so say 9% of the 'standard vehicle' RRP including GST. The discount was about $700 more than the total of the rego/CTP/plates/delivery/stamp duty.

TG

[bugayev]

If the 118Kw TSI motor is the same one as in the current Skoda Octavia (1.8 turbo petrol, 118Kw, max torque at 1,500rpm with timing chain not rubber belt), then it would be way better than the 2.0 FSI NA motor in the Golf V.

My suggestion is (as always), test drive the contenders, then choose the one you like best at the price you are prepared to pay.

Everyone has their own preferences and priorities, so what we like may not be best for you.

The TSI is the twincharged rather than just a turbo, so it may not be the same

[brad]

The TSI is the twincharged rather than just a turbo, so it may not be the same

I think you'll find all VW forced induction engines now carry the TSI badge. Mine does & it only has a turbo.

To the OP: Buy the forced induction car - I don't think I could ever go back to NA after experienceing FckNwooosh!

I have a 118kw Skoda Octavia 1.8TSI (It's a butt-ugly Golf with a bigger boot & an Audi engine) and i love it. The engine is a pearler.

If your worried about reliability - 3 years warranty & you can buy another couple of years for peace of mind.

[mario speedwagen]

I didn't know you could buy an extended warranty, that's sounding like a good idea to me. Thanks for that.

Another concern of mine is the servicing, purely as I just don't know how much it costs. I'm used to paying between $200-$400 every 10,000kms for my SP23.

How much is the regular service on a golf? I would expect the current GT sport service costs to be around the same price as the golf VI due to the twincharger, but I don't know how much that is. (I'm assuming it's coming out with a twincharger, I could be wrong).

Thanks for the info.

[Greg Roles]

Also depends how long you plan on keeping it. A smaller, more economical engine will become more and more desirable as fuel costs invariably continue to rise. I'd pick the newer, smaller cc car for a longer term machine.

That said, I reckon there will be some bonza MK5 deals to be had from now on, as both the looming new model and current slow car sales drive the competition for your business.