Just got APR on the pirelli

[kryten2001]

Hey guys.

I got the pirelli last Friday, and had it booked in this morning for its APR treatment. Over here in WA, I got Quattro's to take care of it, and I couldn't be happier - great service, and a very knowledgeable bloke.

Anyway, the tune, holy snapping duck sh*t does it go like stink. The standard pirelli was already fast, but this is eye popping quick.

I'm not sure of actual figures as apparently the 'new' new pirelli tunes take into account the lack of fuel pressure provided (you need a fuel pump to get full horsepower, it's a seperate tune) - but no matter.

The thing I like best (which really worried me), is the power delivery. I don't like redlining the crap out the car (I paddleshift around 5-6,000 rpm) - but that's where the power appears to be. The increased torque is just incredible, it just belts.

Anybody considering a tune, don't - just do it.

Fingers crossed I don't get any of those nasty engine warning lights.....

Next comes the new fuel pump, full exhaust and 328mm brembos!..

[Pullstarter]

Would the power outputs be the same on a Pirelli and a stock GTI after APR tunage or would the Pirelli be a bit more grunty still?

[decksla]

are they still quoting 230kw?

i pmed Guy and he said that a fuel pump isnt needed till after stage 2.

i was wanting to go down the APR flash + downpipe path which is essentially stage 2.

[decksla]

sorry, also, what it cost you? 2K as on their website?

cheers

[tinto]

Would the power outputs be the same on a Pirelli and a stock GTI after APR tunage or would the Pirelli be a bit more grunty still?

Pirelli has a hardware advantage with the larger turbo, so would be quicker.

[kryten2001]

Would the power outputs be the same on a Pirelli and a stock GTI after APR tunage or would the Pirelli be a bit more grunty still?

No, a tuned GTI is about the same as a Pirelli (out of the box). 180kw.

The tuned pirelli is about 230 ish.

If you get a stage-2 though (k04 turbo, tune) then it's about the same.

[kryten2001]

are they still quoting 230kw?

i pmed Guy and he said that a fuel pump isnt needed till after stage 2.

i was wanting to go down the APR flash + downpipe path which is essentially stage 2.

Apparently yeah. The 'new' tune they're putting out (revised) allows for the fact the pirelli's pump isn't quite up to snuff.

Once you get the exhaust+fuel pump, it's good for about 240-250kw, 430nm.

[kryten2001]

sorry, also, what it cost you? 2K as on their website?

cheers

yeah mate, $1995. Cheapest 50kw you'll ever see.

[zz2]

yeah mate, $1995. Cheapest 50kw you'll ever see.

nah mate... from Dec to January bluefin was offering their Pirelli tune with the hand held computer for around $850 delivered. that was 20% off the normal price.

i dont want to rip your purchase or anything but it makes APR looking like a f*king rip for similar gains. plus the advantage of bluefin is you can load it on and off yourself for dealer visits and the stage 2 map is free!

i have bluefin and its best thing i have ever bought for my car

[kryten2001]

nah mate... from Dec to January bluefin was offering their Pirelli tune with the hand held computer for around $850 delivered. that was 20% off the normal price.

i dont want to rip your purchase or anything but it makes APR looking like a f*king rip for similar gains. plus the advantage of bluefin is you can load it on and off yourself for dealer visits and the stage 2 map is free!

i have bluefin and its best thing i have ever bought for my car

Oh well, I'm happy.

[Maverick]

nah mate... from Dec to January bluefin was offering their Pirelli tune with the hand held computer for around $850 delivered. that was 20% off the normal price.

i dont want to rip your purchase or anything but it makes APR looking like a f*king rip for similar gains. plus the advantage of bluefin is you can load it on and off yourself for dealer visits and the stage 2 map is free!

i have bluefin and its best thing i have ever bought for my car

There's more to a tune then just price.

• Do bluefin have a local dealer? Nope.

• What sort of support do you get out of superchips given they are based in the UK?

• What happens if your handheld device fails when changing maps?

• What if it get's disconnected during the flashing?

• How much development does superchips put in?

• Do they do their own maps or use someone elses?

• Do they cater for fuel pump upgrades and so on?

The big issue is what if you have problems, who do you call to help if you have bluefin? APR are local and will sort out problems quickly.

As I said there is a lot more to a tune then price.

Using your logic you got ripped off by buying bluefin because the ChippedUK ST3 is cheaper and includes TWO maps.

For me paying the extra for the much better service is worth it many times over.

[Pullstarter]

Scheisse!! That's some seriously good numbers! Total awesomeness!!

[Maverick]

Oh well, I'm happy.

And that's what matters. I went down the path of the cheap hand held unit from the UK and it cost me months of stuffing around, hundreds of dollars in tests and more before I had to send it back and even then had to get trading standards in the UK involved.

APR does what it's supposed to, does it well, you know that they have spent a lot time and money using experienced people to create the maps and that you have a great support network that is just a phone call or visit away and that have direct contact with APR in the US who make them maps.

Many of these smaller companies buy maps off other companies, some don't even provide dynographs and you don't know how safe the map is. And you have no support when things go wrong, what happens if you have to get the ECU taken out to try and recover it, with the foreign units you would have to send the ECU to them.

Each to their own but I like what I have, I'm very happy with it and the cheap units are a waste of time from my experience.

[kryten2001]

There's more to a tune then just price.

Whilst I agree with everything posted above, sorry guys I didn't mean this to turn into a chip flame war.. Just wanted to let you know I'm well happy with the package and service I got.

[zz2]

Oh well, I'm happy.

and thats the most important thing!

i strongly recomend making the most of WA law and getting a radar detector with your new weapon.

any plans on taking it to motorplex to see what she will do?