To GTi or not GTi.....

[GTIWesome]

Ill take a R32 for a spin as well, the cost isnt that much more of a hit through a novated lease.
Im assuming the ride would be much firmer, and the seats are even more "wank sporty boy" (to quote the missus)

[GTIWesome]

Well we spent an afternoon in a variety of golfs yesterday. Weather was so-so ( late rain), but not much traffic so we could put the foot down.

We drove the stanard petrol 2.0 to get a feel for general comfort, handling and ride. Nice ride alround, lacking guts somewhat on acceleration.

Next up 2.0GT diesel...verrry nice and punchy. Both pretty happy with highway and over some non smooth bitumen. Was a tad noisy, partic in suburban traffic. Maybe too punchy with turbo lag?

GTI....wow. On the highway a dream. Behaved very sedately in suburban traffic as well which was a little surprising. DSG rocks! But ride wasnt quite as smooth on suburban roads, and the seats well, my partner is not a big fan of the seats.

Dealer looked at us like we were crazy when we told him the seats was a negative. Anyway we hopped back it the GT again to do a double check, but we both think the GTI is the best of 3 very good cars.

Back at the dealership, the dealer wanted to put hard sell on us then and there saying that if we wait until Jan 09 to order, there wont be any GTIs left. Is this right or just salesman drivel?

The guy was saying that no more MKVs are being made so whatever is in the country currently is all that will be available.

I was thinking of holding off as the way the economy is going, delaers will be getting quite desperate my end of Feb or March 09. What do you guys think, should I pull the trigger now if stocks are so scarce, or wait for a few months for a better deal?

[gerhard]

Well we spent an afternoon in a variety of golfs yesterday. Weather was so-so ( late rain), but not much traffic so we could put the foot down.

We drove the stanard petrol 2.0 to get a feel for general comfort, handling and ride. Nice ride alround, lacking guts somewhat on acceleration.

Next up 2.0GT diesel...verrry nice and punchy. Both pretty happy with highway and over some non smooth bitumen. Was a tad noisy, partic in suburban traffic. Maybe too punchy with turbo lag?

GTI....wow. On the highway a dream. Behaved very sedately in suburban traffic as well which was a little surprising. DSG rocks! But ride wasnt quite as smooth on suburban roads, and the seats well, my partner is not a big fan of the seats.

Dealer looked at us like we were crazy when we told him the seats was a negative. Anyway we hopped back it the GT again to do a double check, but we both think the GTI is the best of 3 very good cars.

Back at the dealership, the dealer wanted to put hard sell on us then and there saying that if we wait until Jan 09 to order, there wont be any GTIs left. Is this right or just salesman drivel?

The guy was saying that no more MKVs are being made so whatever is in the country currently is all that will be available.

I was thinking of holding off as the way the economy is going, delaers will be getting quite desperate my end of Feb or March 09. What do you guys think, should I pull the trigger now if stocks are so scarce, or wait for a few months for a better deal?

You won't be able to buy a 2009 model MK V Golf, GTI or other, since the production line is already on MK VI. The last of the Mk Vs will be 2008 built, MY09, and 2009 AU Compliance for those not processed in AU yet.

It's not really "salesman speak" telling you that what's on the boat or in the country is the last of the MKV line.

No-one can be sure when the first of the MK VI GTIs will arrive here, perhaps from March onwards there will be some "showroom stock" configurations arriving.

[Oneofthegreats]

You won't be able to buy a 2009 model MK V Golf, GTI or other, since the production line is already on MK VI. The last of the Mk Vs will be 2008 built, MY09, and 2009 AU Compliance for those not processed in AU yet.

It's not really "salesman speak" telling you that what's on the boat or in the country is the last of the MKV line.

No-one can be sure when the first of the MK VI GTIs will arrive here, perhaps from March onwards there will be some "showroom stock" configurations arriving.

Sorry, but I've already posted some info to clear this stuff up.

But I'll post it again! If it's 9/08 it's a MY09 build! If it's a 9/06, it's a MY07 build.

The complaince plate isn't the Model Year! The build date is!

There are MY09 GTI's & Mk5's!

Sept. onward's build's are MY09's!

Check the chassis #'s

WVWZZZ1KZ9 onwards = "9" is MY09!

Also. Aug. next year was the last info I heard for the mk6 GTI arrival

[GTIWesome]

I think my last post was a little rushed - I am happy to buy a MKV (as I believe the wait for the MKVI will be well into 2010).

Im only concerned whether I need to pull the trigger before xmas (owing to scare tactics by dealer as to scarce stock being true? ) or we can wait until new year and maybe get a better deal.

The dealer wouldnt tell me how much stock was available, said he couldnt check. Arent these guys all tapped into the same national network via computer?

[gerhard]

Sorry, but I've already posted some info to clear this stuff up.

But I'll post it again! If it's 9/08 it's a MY09 build! If it's a 9/06, it's a MY07 build.

The complaince plate isn't the Model Year! The build date is!

There are MY09 GTI's & Mk5's!

Sept. onward's build's are MY09's!

Check the chassis #'s

WVWZZZ1KZ9 onwards = "9" is MY09!

Also. Aug. next year was the last info I heard for the mk6 GTI arrival

Where did I say the compliance date is the model year???

I said "The last of the Mk Vs will be 2008 built, MY09, and 2009 AU Compliance for those not processed in AU yet"

I'll expand - Built in Germany/South Africa in 2008. They will be MY09. Those that have not landed in AU yet will be complianced in 2009. They will be 2008 build, MY09, 2009 AU Compliance.

Exactly what I said before.


As for when the first GTIs will arrive in AU, no-one knows - I'm sure I said that too. However, since production in Germany is being scaled back due to the slowdown, AU allocations of Tiguans and Caddys are being increased, which is why the petrol Tigs are now available. That same slowdown could well mean the AU demand for the Golf VI will be met by higher and or faster allocation from Germany, and it could well mean GTIs will be available from the Melb Motor Show onwards.

As I said, no-one knows.

But the dealer is not talking B/S - general consensus seems to be that GTIs will be in short supply and could be sold out by January. Maybe Pirellis only still available. R32s likewise will be in short supply and gone forever. However, I do not have inside information on VWA's stock levels, so General Consensus could be wrong, and GTIs might be way overstocked and they will fire sale them in the first quarter next year to get rid of them.

[Russ59]

When I bought my GT the dealer was able to tell me on the spot that there was only one left in Australia with everything I wanted, white, manual and sunroof. I didn't sign the dotted line then and there but I did ring around a few dealers to see if I could strike up a better deal, they all gave me the same answer as to what was available in the country. As soon as I knew it was the last one available I rang the original dealer and got him to put my name on it. It should be on their system and if they tell you they don't know what is available, I would be inclined to work out exactly what options you want (ie leather seats, sunroof, reverse sensors etc.......) ring around a few other dealers and ask them.

Russ

[gerhard]

When I bought my GT the dealer was able to tell me on the spot that there was only one left in Australia with everything I wanted, white, manual and sunroof. I didn't sign the dotted line then and there but I did ring around a few dealers to see if I could strike up a better deal, they all gave me the same answer as to what was available in the country. As soon as I knew it was the last one available I rang the original dealer and got him to put my name on it. It should be on their system and if they tell you they don't know what is available, I would be inclined to work out exactly what options you want (ie leather seats, sunroof, reverse sensors etc.......) ring around a few other dealers and ask them.

Russ

Spot on advice. I was going to add that, but when posts get too long people skip over them

[Treza360]

Ill take a R32 for a spin as well, the cost isnt that much more of a hit through a novated lease.
Im assuming the ride would be much firmer, and the seats are even more "wank sporty boy" (to quote the missus)

You'd be surprised. Every review I've read says that the GTI setup is a much stiffer/sporty setup one whereas the R32 is more the sporty luxury cruiser instead.
Unless you get the optional Recaros the seats in the R32 are the same as the GTI. They're nice and comfy seats with lots of support that shouldn't give you any back ache or anything over a long trip.
Cheers,
Trent

[tdi guy]

Are all dealers equal?

When I bought my GT the dealer was able to tell me on the spot that there was only one left in Australia with everything I wanted, white, manual and sunroof. I didn't sign the dotted line then and there but I did ring around a few dealers to see if I could strike up a better deal, they all gave me the same answer as to what was available in the country. As soon as I knew it was the last one available I rang the original dealer and got him to put my name on it. It should be on their system and if they tell you they don't know what is available, I would be inclined to work out exactly what options you want (ie leather seats, sunroof, reverse sensors etc.......) ring around a few other dealers and ask them.

Russ

I agree. My dealer found a car in ACT that the other dealers did not. They should all be on the same computer system, so perhaps the earlier deal fell through that day and the new dealer happened across the newly available stock after I had spoken to the others...