Oils aint Oils

[les88]

I live about 100klms from my nearest VW service, spare parts dealer so when I wanted to change the engine oil, I went to every oil outlet in my town to buy Castrol SLX Professional Powerflow. None was stocked so I bought Castrol Edge at $53 for 5 liters. I was not convinced that this was a substitute so I rang Castrol Hot line and was told that Castrol SLX Professional Powerflow was made in Germany to VW specs and shipped to their dealers wordwide, and it has no substitute. So drove to the dealer for their oil at $72.5 for 5 liters. I wonder if the motor had damage under warranty and you were not using the VW oil what would be the outcome.
les

[Maverick]

Do a search as there was a massive thread on this a while ago that ended up answering your question.

[RIS00]

your warranty would be void.

[No457 Snowy]

Yep, your warranty would be void, that's exactly why they have a VW spec for the oil, as do all motor manufacturers. It's amusing how you can read different threads about what favourite oils people are using in their VW engines and a lot of them aren't up to the VW spec even though they are synthetic etc.


Snowy

[brad]

Using non-complying or non-genuine parts during warranty period will give them cause to void warranty for affected parts.

Even if you use the factory parts you are still buggered unless the work is performed by "suitably qualified" personnel. I'm assuming this means you need to hold an MVRIC licence.

I believe the following oils are available in many auto parts places and have the latest VW licences on the bottle:

• Mobil1 0w40
• Shell Helix Ultra VX 5w30
• Penrite Enviro 5w30

Hope this helps

[dodgey]

Castrol Edge is a VW/Audi 502 approved oil, so you have not voided your warranty. Granted, it's probably not the best oil you can get for your engine, it is one of the cheaper one

[brad]

Castrol Edge is a VW/Audi 502 approved oil, so you have not voided your warranty. Granted, it's probably not the best oil you can get for your engine, it is one of the cheaper one

There are 4 different grades/viscosities of Castrol Edge. Only the 0w40 is VW 502/505 Approved. The 5w30 meets the specification but doesn't appear to have been through VWs labs.

Isn't the latest spec 504 for petrol & 507 for diesel? OP hasn't actually said what he has.

[No457 Snowy]

If it helps, since you're in Cooma, there's a Castrol Distributor in QBN. For my in-between service oil changes at home I picked up a 20 litre drum of this from them for $170.

http://www.tds.castrol.com.au/pdf/3040_txt_softec_ll01_b1567_02.pdf

works out at $8.50 per litre and is full synthetic with the VW 502, 505 approvals. (not sure what approval your particular engine needs)

Edit: When I called the dealer and spoke to the Technician after my service this is the oil he said was used in my car, I noticed later this is what was written next to the oil code on my invoice. (Cast Softec TXT)


Cheers,

Snowy.

[Maverick]

The other thread is located at http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/newf...ad.php?t=17940

There is a 504.00 for petrol and a 507.00 for diesel.

But every oil that has been developed has been able to meet both standards hence why VW refer to the standard as 504.00/507.00.

Oil Link (not completely up to date)

VW 500.00 - VW spec for multigrade engine oils for petrol engines with SAE 5W-X/10W-X viscosity.

VW 500.00 + 505.00 - Oil meets both VW 500.00 and 505.00 spec.

VW 501.01 - VW spec for petrol engines.

VW 501.14 - Brake fluid with low viscosity, VW 2006>.

VW 502.00 - VW spec, oil for petrol engines. Successor of VW 501.01 & 500.00 spec.

VW 503.00 - Long-life petrol engine oil for VW cars with WIV. Meets ACEA A1, SAE 0W-30 or 5W-30.

VW 503.01 - Special engine oil for some VW petrol engines. SAE 5W-30.

VW 504.00 - Long-life petrol engines with WIV.

VW 505.00 - Passanger car diesel engine oil, minimum performance level CCMC PD-2. Lists viscosities:- SAE 5W-50, 10W-50/60, 15W-40/50, 20W-40/50 requiring 13% max evaporation loss and SAE 5W-30/40, 10W-30/40 requiring 15% max evaporation loss.

VW 505.01 - Special engine oil for VW turbodiesel with pump-injector-unit and for the V8 commonrail turbodiesel engines. Meets ACEA B4 SAE 5W-40 spec.

VW 506.00 - Special long-life engine oil for turbodiesel engines with WIV, viscosity is SAE 0W-30.

VW 506.01 - Special long-life oil for turbodiesel engines with pump-injector-unit with WIV.

VW 507.00 - Long-life diesel engine oil with WIV.

WIV is extended drain periods.

[scGTI]

Here's another link that might be useful in sorting out all the debate about oils:

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/secti...tentId=7027092

It's from the UK website, but I am assuming the same applies in Aus - I'd doubt we'd get an oil with the exact same name here that is actually different than the rest of the world

[dodgey]

There are 4 different grades/viscosities of Castrol Edge. Only the 0w40 is VW 502/505 Approved. The 5w30 meets the specification but doesn't appear to have been through VWs labs.

Isn't the latest spec 504 for petrol & 507 for diesel? OP hasn't actually said what he has.

As mentioned previously, 504/507 are the long life specs. 502/505 are the standard specs. Either will work, it just depends on how long you go about changing oils...

You are partially correct. 0w40 and 5w40 are approved. 5w30 meets spec but I have not seen it on the approved list...

That said, the only time I had Castrol in my car was when it came with it. It has been changed out to something else, and considering I don't drive my car that often, it gets changed a lot more regularly than the recommended 15k cycle...

Hopefully the OP got the right Castrol Edge the first time

Looking at the FAQ from Castrol, someone's a bit slow in documentation....

[No457 Snowy]

5w30 meets spec but I have not seen it on the approved list...

Castrol Softec has 502/505 approval in that viscosity:

http://www.tds.castrol.com.au/pdf/3040_txt_softec_ll01_b1567_02.pdf

Snowy

[dodgey]

Castrol Softec has 502/505 approval in that viscosity:

http://www.tds.castrol.com.au/pdf/3040_txt_softec_ll01_b1567_02.pdf

Snowy

Sorry, should have been clearer. I meant that I have not seen Castrol Edge 5w30 ever being on the VW approved list. I have seen Castrol Softec Plus SL on the list, as well as Softec 5w40. My list is pretty old though. 2006...

[les88]

Thanks for your info & replies.
I will use the VW oils for the 7500 klms change.
les