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  • #16
    everything is better with a GTI. but if the 1.6 does what you need with only basic bolt ons(exhaust, intake) then more power to you

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    • #17
      I had both exhaust and intake on my 1.6L and found that it did improve over being stock
      Mainly being the exhaust as vw made it weigh a ton and also very restrictive
      But anything further than that there's not much else you can do to it

      Supercharger kits for the 2.0 do look rather interesting and would be keen to see one
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      -Previously Owned a MK4 1.6L Golf - Reflex Silver

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      • #18
        Those are all good points! Ultimately a gti would be best even on dirt.
        Im not new to club based rallying but im really just wanting to just be competitive in my class ( C1 0-1600cc) and build on my skills, but most of all drive lots of events! Not looking for an arc or wrc title.. YET!
        Looking at the majority of the other cars in C1 for the most part my competition would be hyundai excels, holden geminis, datsun 1600, swifts, colts ect.
        A gti would be 1.8x1.7=3.06 so class C4 2700cc and over, so a gti would be competing against, silvias, 13b mazdas, v8's, sklylines, ect.
        A 2ltr mk4 would be a C2 which is 2000cc-2700cc

        Anyway car is still on track, got both saas seat mounted up and installed, just waiting on harnesses now.. and have to paint/put a blue triangle on the bonnet to let people know where the battery is located. And also have tk find some of those reflective triangles to place out when broken down on stage.

        For anyone interested my first event in this car is next weekend, s1 rallysprint at nabiac (Cncscc) i think its a 4.5km stage, we do 3 runs in each direction and your best 2 runs each way are counted. There is also reconisence first to drive the stage slowly and let the navy get some pacenotes together.

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        • #19
          If you've stripped your interior completely a battery relocation to the boot won't go astray where you'd be balancing the weight around the car a bit more
          If you were to reduce weight even more you could look into removing the ac system completely
          Mk4's are quite a heavy car so any type of weight reduction will make a difference, especially in a race
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          -Previously Owned a MK4 1.6L Golf - Reflex Silver

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          • #20
            Originally posted by buggy man View Post
            Those are all good points! Ultimately a gti would be best even on dirt.
            Im not new to club based rallying but im really just wanting to just be competitive in my class ( C1 0-1600cc) and build on my skills, but most of all drive lots of events! Not looking for an arc or wrc title.. YET!
            Looking at the majority of the other cars in C1 for the most part my competition would be hyundai excels, holden geminis, datsun 1600, swifts, colts ect.
            A gti would be 1.8x1.7=3.06 so class C4 2700cc and over, so a gti would be competing against, silvias, 13b mazdas, v8's, sklylines, ect.
            A 2ltr mk4 would be a C2 which is 2000cc-2700cc
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            Wise stuff reading the rules, which people fail to do time and time again.
            The 2 litre is under 2000cc though, I think that would be a good balance between cost and performance as you can tap into readily available upgrade parts, they aren't really powerful but do have good torque, which makes it easier to drive, you can do all that later though, no hurry

            Low power classes are generally a lot more fun and rewarding if you drive it tight it will out perform significantly more powerful machines, which is always a buzz
            Only thing with the 1.6 would be the Honda challenge, those things can get 240 hp from a 1.6 if they go full out

            Have fun next week!

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            • #21
              The interior isnt completly stripped out, im still debating whether or not to keep the carpet.. its goint to be driven daily aswell as raced so there will have to be a compromise somewhere, a battery relocation sounds like a good idea to me, would also like to add an isolator switch as well.

              Did a wee bit of testing today, it feels good on the dirt quite predictable which is nice and has a nice feel to it!









              And somthing else ive been working on!

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              • #22


                Spent some time today exploring the snow up around guyra. Also started installing the harnesses, i think im going to try use the original bolts seatbelt points for the lap belts and for the shoulder starps drill through the floor and use some flat plate on either side to spread the load. I belive that this will be satisfactory for cams regualtions.

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                • #23
                  Also has anybody put an aftermarket steering wheel on before? Can you buy a bosskit as such for these?

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                  • #24
                    Okay bit of an update for anyone thats interested.
                    We ran the rallysprint a few weeks back, only having just got the car ready i was nervous about getting through scrutiny (car/ saftey inspection) especially when the othe 43 cars were mainly full rally cars from an escort, rx7, rx2, awd subarus, evos, rally series excel, r33 skyline... anyway you get the idea.
                    So into the first stage we were driving okay, ran well and really fast on the straights for a 1.6! Top of about 130 for the main straight and the wrx's were getting about 145 150. So we finished the stage and there is a lot of steam coming from the bonnet.... blew a plactic tee peice in the heater line going into the throttle body. So that was our day lol luckily someone was kind enough to let us drive there subaru, which was awesome of them!

                    So after getting home i fixed that and made some more changes, stripped more interior out, moved the battery onto the floor behind the passenger seat and added an isolator switch on the dash, moved the windscreen washer bottle to the back of the car, added an oil catch can and moved the air intake to the old battery location.

                    Went back to the club the weekend just gone for a motorkhana, although a much more low speed event compared to a rally sprint they are still tight and technical and offer some awesome competition, with a feild of 30 cars it wasnt a small event, gemini, rx7, liberty rs, turboed buggy special, excels ect.

                    I drove well throughout the day and avoided any wrong directions and penalties and didnt have any machenical issues, took out 1st in class C, and 3rd Outright. Stoked with that result! Especially on ROAD TYRES lol

                    Now its back in the shed for some more changes, upgrading the ****ty worn out gear linkages for solid metal versions without bushes, gearbox oil change, and a general refinement of the car, fitting up some rally tyres to some rims and getting ready for the autcross in a fortnight, this will be an interesting event being a 1km dirt circuit it often attracts some decent cars and lots of entries.

                    Anyway a few photos , unfortunately not that many were taken.. oh well lol

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                        • #27
                          well done on the results!
                          loose some more weight where you can
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                          • #28
                            Yeah I agree, ill post up soms pictures of the inteior tomorrow, there is not much left to remove in that department lol.
                            I am going to remove the whole A/C system as it needs a new compressor so it doesnt work anyway, it will remove a fair amount of weight and will free up some hp and let the engine spin more freely. Hopefully will do this next week before the autocross but will see how i go lol

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                            • #29
                              Sounds like fun haha
                              Well done on going so well!
                              I broke that same plastic t-piece on my 1.6L aswel
                              Which left my car stranded 20 minutes from home one night haha
                              Must be a common problem lol
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                              -Previously Owned a MK4 1.6L Golf - Reflex Silver

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                              • #30
                                Hub caps?

                                I didn't even think you were allowed to leave them on in a CAMS eveny

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