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  • Orange Dash Light of Car and Key. Immobiliser Problem?

    Hi all,

    Having bit of a problem with my 99 Mkiv 1.8t.
    Just last month I've managed to break my ignition barrel and had it repaired by a non VAG mechanic.
    Today the car was driving fine, stopped and turned the car off while the missus was looking at a new place to move,
    I was really tired and was trying to get some sleep, I could hear some sort of noise from the car but didnt make much of it.

    Anyway, when we tried to leave, the car starts for a second and then dies.
    The Orange dash light of the car and key symbol is flashing, along with the red battery light
    I've tried to disconnect the battery but no look. also tried to leave the key in the 'on' position aswell

    (Note: Battery was replaced last year, alternator was rebuilt last year)

    Desperately need help because the car is only 2 streets away from my home, its really annoying knowing that its in a dodgy neighborhood since my last Skyline was stolen in this area.

    Thank You

  • #2
    Basically the immobilizer is cutting the car out, when it starts and dies after about 1 second its a immobilizer issue. you also have the key light flashing to confirm this... Do you have a spare key? If yes try that...does it start with the spare key? If it does then its the other key chip thats faulty and might need replacing or coding again...if both keys dont start the car then it could be the key reader ( the black plastic ring around the ignition barrel) or the immobilizer itself......VDUB...
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    • #3
      hi thanks for the quick reply

      yea i tried the spare key aswell. no lucky
      car still sitting lonely in a random street.
      I think when the non-vag mechanics repaired my ignition barrel they mustve screwed something up
      any suggestions to fix this before i have to take the car back to the shop again?
      (just got it back less than 3 weeks ago sigh)

      thanks

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      • #4
        also try the key in different positions - i.e. insert key and try to start, if no luck turn pull the key, turn it over and put in the other way. Try with each key.

        the reader, as VDMW said, is a loop around the barrel, if it has slipped a bit, it might not read the chip in the key. Same if it is broken or damaged.

        you could hold the spare in various spots near the ignition barrel as you turn the other in an attempt for the reader and key to communicate
        My build thread here: 1.6 sr into 1.8T http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/foru...-8t-63249.html

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Stan View Post
          also try the key in different positions - i.e. insert key and try to start, if no luck turn pull the key, turn it over and put in the other way. Try with each key.

          the reader, as VDMW said, is a loop around the barrel, if it has slipped a bit, it might not read the chip in the key. Same if it is broken or damaged.



          Yeah agree here, seems the repair or the damage caused prior. Ive had a few clusters lockup too, that's where your immob is but seeing it had repair in that very area I'd be looking there.

          you could hold the spare in various spots near the ignition barrel as you turn the other in an attempt for the reader and key to communicate
          Yeah agree here, seems the repair or the damage caused prior. Ive had a few clusters lockup too, that's where your immob is but seeing it had repair in that very area I'd be looking there.
          Alba European
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Stan View Post
            also try the key in different positions - i.e. insert key and try to start, if no luck turn pull the key, turn it over and put in the other way. Try with each key.

            the reader, as VDMW said, is a loop around the barrel, if it has slipped a bit, it might not read the chip in the key. Same if it is broken or damaged.





            you could hold the spare in various spots near the ignition barrel as you turn the other in an attempt for the reader and key to communicate
            Yeah agree here, seems the repair or the damage caused prior. Ive had a few clusters lockup too, that's where your immob is but seeing it had repair in that very area I'd be looking there for sure and as you only had it back a short while you may unfortunately need to take it back mate
            Good luck
            Jmac
            Alba European
            Service, Diagnostics and repairs. Mobile Diag available on request
            Audi/VW/Porsche Factory trained tech 25+ yrs exp
            For people who value experience call 0423965341

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            • #7
              Give the steering column a good bash with your hand too...worked for me once before.....
              VOLKSWAGEN TECHNICIAN - 16 YEARS OF PAIN..
              VCDS CODING- FAULT DIAGNOSIS - PRE PURCHASE INSPECTIONS- REPAIRS
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              • #8
                thanks for the tips guys.
                gona walk back to the car and give it a crack

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                • #9
                  Hey just checking back in,

                  ended up calling my VAG mechanic got referred to mobile electrician -> random places etc etc

                  So its def that black ring / key reader

                  it mustve failed due to the heat yesterday,

                  anyone know any places or even mobile mechanics that are able to fix this in Gold Coast area??

                  thanks

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                  • #10
                    Just check with dealer parts department...i did one last week on a passat and had to order the whole barrel cut with key from germany as unable to order the reader seperate.....VDUB....
                    VOLKSWAGEN TECHNICIAN - 16 YEARS OF PAIN..
                    VCDS CODING- FAULT DIAGNOSIS - PRE PURCHASE INSPECTIONS- REPAIRS
                    9W2 BT KITS -$300 - 9W7 BT KITS - $450 - CANBUS UPGRADE $150
                    BRISBANE / GOLD COAST

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by vdubmotorworx View Post
                      Just check with dealer parts department...i did one last week on a passat and had to order the whole barrel cut with key from germany as unable to order the reader seperate.....VDUB....
                      oh no.. how much was that mate??

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                      • #12
                        Sorry mate im not sure...just fitted the part given...was off the road for 2 weeks waiting parts....just check as golf may be different to passat and might get it seperate then it would just be plug and play...readers dont need to be coded as it just relays the signal from key to immobilize....
                        VOLKSWAGEN TECHNICIAN - 16 YEARS OF PAIN..
                        VCDS CODING- FAULT DIAGNOSIS - PRE PURCHASE INSPECTIONS- REPAIRS
                        9W2 BT KITS -$300 - 9W7 BT KITS - $450 - CANBUS UPGRADE $150
                        BRISBANE / GOLD COAST

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