Bora vs Golf Interior.. Straight swap seats??

[kendog]

Help! Golf/Bora info needed!!

Just went to a wreckers, found some nice V5 Bora Sport leather seats, still in car with door trims, does anyone know if they'll fit in my MK4 Golf?? I'm told that both the front seats and door cards/trims will, but the back seats are a maybe, and the back door cards most prob not.
Mostly want info on the seats, can get carpet and roof lining from a clean golf there.

Can any of you MK4 Genius' help me out in this one? I've already taken the day off Monday, so can do it then if I get the right info on it!!

Massive thanks in advance!!

Also, any info on other bits that fit the Golf from the Bora would be great!

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[dylan8]

yes and no...

Front and rear seats bolt straight in.
Rear seats sit a little differently at the top (near the latch) but its barely noticeable
Front door cards are the same, rears are different (bora like 1" longer at the top)

Now, where im not 100% sure.
I was under the impression some adjusting of connections for the front seats air bag cable was to be done when swapping from late to early and vise versa from searching UK/US forums. However, when I installed my '03 golf recaros in my pre 2001.5 bora (late vs early) I had no issues and the connections were the same.

Now im not sure if that is AUS wide, or because the base model boras in AUS got much nicer features then the base model AUS golfs?

[kendog]

Bora vs Golf Interior.. Straight swap seats??

Thanks for the swift reply Dylan!

Last bit sounds right, my golf body is 99/2000, and it doesn't have any airbags in the seats, not sure of what plug is down there. Do I need to find out? Do I have to plug the airbags in the (bora) seats in? Maybe do VCDS work to let the system know they're there?

I'm still outside the place, weighing up my options, I can go back in if I need to.. I think they're staying open until 2 today..

[dylan8]

Plug might be for seat buckle sensor?
If you dont have air bags currently, dont bother plugging the others in if you are worried, they will be there casually hanging out weighing the car down
I guess if you can get them plugged in and working that would be a nice bonus

[kendog]

Bora vs Golf Interior.. Straight swap seats??

Ok, I'll go talk to him, see what I can get it all for..

Still not sure if I want leather seats, or the later/better coloured GTI cloth ones.. Wish they were both here..

[dubster99]

Ask him how much for the a/c vents too. The whole lot?

[kendog]

Bora vs Golf Interior.. Straight swap seats??

One of the guys here is saying that to fit the bora rear seats in the golf, you need to weld two little bits to the golf so that the rear seat backs can clip back?

Seems to be where the upright part hinges forward..

[YellowDieselGolf]

The front and rear seats will fit. I believe the Bora seats can be locked into the closed position (?) but otherwise it should be the same. I haven't heard of welding being required, but it's a 30 second job to remove the rear seats so pull yours out and compare.

The front door cards will fit. The rears won't but you can remove the leather section of the door card and install it into yours.

Your MK4 didn't come with seat mounted airbags, so the V5 airbags will sit there unplugged.

While you're thinking about it - buy the heated seat controllers from the wrecker and combine it with a harness to make your butt toasty.

Grab the armrest too.

[Golf Loon]

I have done it with a few sets of bora seats. Rears and fronts bolt in. Rear door cards are a little different, but you can swop the top part of them over using a soldering iron as a plastic welder if you are creative.

if your car does not have the airbags, just don't plug them in, your car will have no wiring for them and a different airbag controller.

See how you go at the wreckers, I have an identical set of black leather seats and door trims here for sale and a set of GTI cloth seats if you prefer. Everything negotiable in this life and if you buy stuff from us we will help you fit and modify it.

[dubster99]

I have done it with a few sets of bora seats. Rears and fronts bolt in. Rear door cards are a little different, but you can swop the top part of them over using a soldering iron as a plastic welder if you are creative.

if your car does not have the airbags, just don't plug them in, your car will have no wiring for them and a different airbag controller.

See how you go at the wreckers, I have an identical set of black leather seats and door trims here for sale and a set of GTI cloth seats if you prefer. Everything negotiable in this life and if you buy stuff from us we will help you fit and modify it.

dam i wish i lived near you guys! SA has sweet F*#K ALL here :/

[kendog]

Ask him how much for the a/c vents too. The whole lot?

Sorry mate, there was way too much going on before they were shutting up. If I go back out tomorrow, I can ask for you.. Also, how much exactly of the vents? Is it just the visible bits at the front, plus what's connected to them?

[kendog]

The front and rear seats will fit. I believe the Bora seats can be locked into the closed position (?) but otherwise it should be the same. I haven't heard of welding being required, but it's a 30 second job to remove the rear seats so pull yours out and compare.

The front door cards will fit. The rears won't but you can remove the leather section of the door card and install it into yours.

Your MK4 didn't come with seat mounted airbags, so the V5 airbags will sit there unplugged.

While you're thinking about it - buy the heated seat controllers from the wrecker and combine it with a harness to make your butt toasty.

Grab the armrest too.

Thanks YDG!
Yeah, when I head back out there, I'll take my rear seat out & compare.

I still can't see where this bit is different (at the base where it hinges the back of the seat forward), where one of the guys says that the little bits from the bora need to be welded over to the golf?!?!?!

I was thinking the same thing with the door cards, as long as I get the leather insert, I should be able to make use of it.

I'm fine to just leave the airbags unplugged. Done.

With the heated seats, what can I get from the Bora wreck? Just the 'dials' that control them? Or can I get the wiring from that too? Is there anything else needed besides the wiring harness and the controllers/dials?

Armrest was definitely spotted, and on the list!

[dubster99]

Sorry mate, there was way too much going on before they were shutting up. If I go back out tomorrow, I can ask for you.. Also, how much exactly of the vents? Is it just the visible bits at the front, plus what's connected to them?

yea mate the whole vents, surrounds, parts behind them and the wires.

[YellowDieselGolf]

Thanks YDG!
Yeah, when I head back out there, I'll take my rear seat out & compare.

I still can't see where this bit is different (at the base where it hinges the back of the seat forward), where one of the guys says that the little bits from the bora need to be welded over to the golf?!?!?!

I was thinking the same thing with the door cards, as long as I get the leather insert, I should be able to make use of it.

I'm fine to just leave the airbags unplugged. Done.

With the heated seats, what can I get from the Bora wreck? Just the 'dials' that control them? Or can I get the wiring from that too? Is there anything else needed besides the wiring harness and the controllers/dials?

Armrest was definitely spotted, and on the list!

Like GL and Dylan say, I'm pretty sure it'll be fine and a simple install. As I said, it's such a quick job to remove the rears it's worth a quick look. As a plus, if there's no rear seats in your car there'll be more room to carry the leather home.

I used a hot glue gun to install my bora leather door cards. You can pick one up for <$20.

The controllers pop out of the dash and are a thirty second job to remove. Grab them just in case you decide to wire up the seats later.

As for the wiring? I'm not sure how integrated the harness is from the factory, but it'll probably be hard to extricate. I bought my harness from kufatec and it's OEM quality. It's not a straight forward job to install, but worth the effort on a cold winter morning I wouldn't recommend it if you're unfamiliar with electrical systems, but if you're patient and careful it's definitely doable.

[kendog]

I have done it with a few sets of bora seats. Rears and fronts bolt in.

Thanks for the reply Matt. No issues with the the rear seat 'hinge' area? nothing need welding from the bora to the golf??

Rear door cards are a little different, but you can swop the top part of them over using a soldering iron as a plastic welder if you are creative.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing after finding this pic of the difference in door cards from a UK forum..

if your car does not have the airbags, just don't plug them in, your car will have no wiring for them and a different airbag controller.

yeah, seems like a hassle to get them hooked up, I'll leave them unplugged.

See how you go at the wreckers, I have an identical set of black leather seats and door trims here for sale and a set of GTI cloth seats if you prefer. Everything negotiable in this life and if you buy stuff from us we will help you fit and modify it.

Yeah Matt, I was wondering if you had any seats and trim a while back when I started looking again, but wasn't sure where we stood after we got our wires crossed when I picked up my engine after the swap. Hope all is good, and I'd be interested to know what you had. The leather might be a bit much for me, and wondered if you still had those Black/Grey 'sport' cloth seats still out there.. (in a silver golf 'generation'?). Not keen on the Black/Red GTI ones like Oli's, they're a bit too worn as well. I like the shape, but hate the red. Let me know, I have the day off tomorrow.


I think the later model MK4 golfs had the BLK/GRY panel in the middle instead of the BLK/RED (not sure if they're even recaros like the red, but they are made to look like them, also don't have the embroidered 'recaro'). That's probably what I'm after. Like these (a bit cleaner maybe ):



Also, looking at getting all interior along with it, so all is black, carpet and other black trim, like glovebox, center console etc. etc. See how it's looking money wise, I'm supposed to be looking at getting some scratches fixed up instead with the money!

Also, I spotted the V5 Bora Sport had nicer, larger rear brakes. Just out of curiosity, and learning more, can you swap those over to be golf rear brakes? Anyone know anything about this?