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  • A couple of Questions

    Just a couple of hopefully easy questions:

    1. Where is the coil pack (i need a workshop manual)?

    2. What is the size of the pin at location 1?

    Cheers in Advance

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  • #2
    Coil packs go down into the engine from the top - Take off the cover and you'll see 4 black squares probably 2" x 2" - They are your coilpacks.

    No idea how big that pin is.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by SoVeReIgN View Post
      Coil packs go down into the engine from the top - Take off the cover and you'll see 4 black squares probably 2" x 2" - They are your coilpacks.

      No idea how big that pin is.
      ah i saw those, so each plug has it's own coil pack on top rather than one coil and some type of distributor. hmmm.

      cheers
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      • #4
        Originally posted by fuzz View Post
        ah i saw those, so each plug has it's own coil pack on top rather than one coil and some type of distributor. hmmm.

        cheers
        no dizzy. its all electronic.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FknDubbin View Post
          no dizzy. its all electronic.

          yeah good point. i really need to get a workshop manual.
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          • #6
            He never meant you were dizzy he meant no distrubutor! Ah well mate. The pin i would say is M8 in size but why do you u want to know? Coil pack is incorrect terminology for them. Single coil over plug or pencil coil. Coil pack is used often and gives me the willies ( just being picky,trust me)
            Anyway mate any problems we are all here to help
            p.s Coil packs are remote mounted for anyone wanting to know.
            Cheers
            Last edited by Jmac; 27-11-2007, 06:55 PM.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Jimmymac View Post
              He never meant you were dizzy he meant no distrubutor! Ah well mate. The pin i would say is M8 in size but why do you u want to know? Coil pack is incorrect terminology for them. Single coil over plug or pencil coil. Coil pack is used often and gives me the willies ( just being picky,trust me)
              Anyway mate any problems we are all here to help
              p.s Coil packs are remote mounted for anyone wanting to know.
              Cheers
              So true Jimmy!

              Heres a coil pack -

              And heres a coil -

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jimmymac View Post
                He never meant you were dizzy he meant no distrubutor! Ah well mate. The pin i would say is M8 in size but why do you u want to know? Coil pack is incorrect terminology for them. Single coil over plug or pencil coil. Coil pack is used often and gives me the willies ( just being picky,trust me)
                Anyway mate any problems we are all here to help
                p.s Coil packs are remote mounted for anyone wanting to know.
                Cheers
                yeah i know what he was taking about but i thought there would be some kind of single remote coil developing the current and then some kind of dizzy to distribute to the plugs. not a mechanical spinning contact point dizzy but some electronic type.

                as a side note their is solid connection from the negative battery terminal to something which i assumed was the reomte coil? what is this?

                the reason for the questions:

                1. i am putting in an HPA short shift (as per the pic) and they come in an 8 o 10 mil pin so i needed to know to order it.

                2. i built an electronic tacho from a kit as a muck around to use as a HUD tacho. It seems to be working but it needs an input from the negative side of the 'coil' to count how many times a spark is fired off.

                cheers for the info guys
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                • #9
                  Hmmm im interested now mate would be nice to see a HUD. Mate i have the diagrams. If you are looking for the make and break on the neg you could most likely get this from the crank angle sensor. I understand you reason for the question now. Ok you dont hav a 'single coil as such mate feeding the 4" you have individuals im assuming im talking about the right engine as there is coil packs in some VW engine set ups . Mate give me your engine number - its on your white sticker in your book or in the boot. Then i can help lots more. If yo need a make and break earth then this does happen at the hall sender or crank angle sensor, this is an earth pulse.
                  Im sure we will find a trigger for you mate
                  Cheers
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Jimmymac View Post
                    Hmmm im interested now mate would be nice to see a HUD. Mate i have the diagrams. If you are looking for the make and break on the neg you could most likely get this from the crank angle sensor. I understand you reason for the question now. Ok you dont hav a 'single coil as such mate feeding the 4" you have individuals im assuming im talking about the right engine as there is coil packs in some VW engine set ups . Mate give me your engine number - its on your white sticker in your book or in the boot. Then i can help lots more. If yo need a make and break earth then this does happen at the hall sender or crank angle sensor, this is an earth pulse.
                    Im sure we will find a trigger for you mate
                    Cheers
                    cheers jimmy

                    here is the kit i put together:





                    dodgy phone shots i took this morning.


                    I want to disconnect the two boards, put the main board in the glovebox or somewhere and then run the number panel on the dash pointing up onto the glass. i need to work out the focus and reflection to get a sharp image without too much ghosting but i'll just play around and see if i can get something good.

                    i'm pretty sure your talking about the right engine as it appears there is coils as 'fkn' put up earlier. this may spoil my whole operation?

                    so yeah i'll check out the engine number when i get home this arvo and send it through, hopefully we can find somewhere.

                    otherwise have to stick it on one of your rides...love to see the combi. my mate is looking around for a 21 window but fvck they are expensive at the moment. he's also doing a 68 (i think) oval window ragtop from the ground up. taking a while but it will be a show stopper.
                    Last edited by fuzz; 28-11-2007, 12:12 PM.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by fuzz View Post
                      cheers jimmy

                      here is the kit i put together:





                      dodgy phone shots i took this morning.


                      I want to disconnect the two boards, put the main board in the glovebox or somewhere and then run the number panel on the dash pointing up onto the glass. i'm not sure it will reflect right or work right but i'm going to give it a go and see.

                      i'm pretty sure your talking about the right engine as it appears there is coils as 'fkn' put up earlier. this may spoil my whole operation?

                      so yeah i'll check out the engine number when i get home this arvo and send it through, hopefully we can find somewhere.

                      otherwise have to stick it on one of your rides...love to see the combi. my mate is looking around for a 21 window but fvck they are expensive at the moment. he's also doing a 68 (i think) oval window ragtop from the ground up. taking a while but it will be a show stopper.
                      It might not be as simple as it seems. When you have a multimeter with an inductive lead for engine RPM, it will only work with distributor ot coilpack designs as they measure the pulse of the spark as it travels down the lead. Stick type coils dont have this arrangement and it is a very low energy signal sent to the coil. The kit you have might not pick it up acurately and if the GTI coil works on a dead spark arrangement, it will get fooled.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by FknDubbin View Post
                        It might not be as simple as it seems. When you have a multimeter with an inductive lead for engine RPM, it will only work with distributor ot coilpack designs as they measure the pulse of the spark as it travels down the lead. Stick type coils dont have this arrangement and it is a very low energy signal sent to the coil. The kit you have might not pick it up acurately and if the GTI coil works on a dead spark arrangement, it will get fooled.
                        yeah it does count the number of big 'spikes' coming from a central coil and then use this to calculate the RPM. so if its low voltage going to each pencil coil which itself develops the voltage for the spark then i don't see how i can make this work.

                        might test it out on my charade (which i think has a central coil pack ).

                        the other hard part is getting it to look good on the mirror which is laminated and therefore ghosts the reflection but that is stage 2 if i get to it.
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                        • #13
                          been off for a bit but i'm back:

                          got the short shift kit and installed it. the shift travel is good but the shift action is not. getting into and especially out of reverse is terrible. this is no doubt due to my install and how i replaced the cables. anyone have any experience with doing this?
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                          • #14
                            Maybe just check the installation procedure that you did maybe did something wrong, also does it need lubing at all?

                            Try changing the gearbox fluid I know when I did mine it felt fantastic and it was incredible, but thats slightly off topic but you never know
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Mk3vr6 View Post
                              Maybe just check the installation procedure that you did maybe did something wrong, also does it need lubing at all?

                              Try changing the gearbox fluid I know when I did mine it felt fantastic and it was incredible, but thats slightly off topic but you never know
                              i did everything as per the instructions as far as i interpreted them. I also used heaps of lube before i put her in. (had to take rthe opportunity for a bit of inuendo)

                              the only thing i may have (probably did) wrong was when i reconnected back the two cables, this should be the only part where you can get it wrong.

                              i would mind changing the box oil. have to check if that was done during the recent major service? That isn't going to help me in this case though. I think i need someone who has experience with the clutch and shifter mechanism to re-adjust it.

                              i.e. if you look at the pic of the shifter assembly in one of the first posts i had to take off the cables at 1 & 3, i marked them before taking them off so i can return them to the right place but it doesn't feel right.
                              Last edited by fuzz; 16-01-2008, 01:49 PM.
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